The rich alway see one rule for them & another rule for the rest of us.
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@ChrisMayLA6 add to that he's also been getting UK government subsidies for his INEOS chemicals company, while investing that money abroad and closing Grangemouth refinery in Scotland.
I gather he was also touting for government help to redevelop Old Trafford.
Just another rich sponger off the state.
Ratcliffe wants to use taxpayer money to rebuild Old Trafford
New Manchester United minority owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe reportedly wants to use public funding to help rebuild Old Trafford.
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Obligatory sharing of the corporate welfare polka - https://annefeeney.bandcamp.com/track/the-corporate-welfare-song
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It's the thing I find most bewildering about the tribalism of football support. If a team was all local players, I'd understand people being proud of it.
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There's a radical division among Brits in France between those of us that recognise we are immigrants, and the colonial-types that call themselves 'ex-pats'.
@GeofCox @ChrisMayLA6 so they used to be patriotic? Got it.
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There's a radical division among Brits in France between those of us that recognise we are immigrants, and the colonial-types that call themselves 'ex-pats'.
@GeofCox @ChrisMayLA6
I’ve always thought that ’ex-pat’ should be reserved for workers on fixed-term contracts. As soon as you decide to stay long-term, you clearly become an immigrant. -
Also, the added hypocrisy of someone who owns a football club, when most big football clubs have players from all over the world. No immigration? Fine. But all Manchester United players have to be from Manchester, and you can't just buy in good ones from elsewhere.
@suearcher @ChrisMayLA6 The problem is that the ideal UK immigrant is someone who was trained in their trade in their home country, comes to the UK for all of their productive years, therefore pays tax and national insurance contributions in the UK during those years, but who then returns to their home country when they are no longer productive and/or may actually need to rely on any kind of social security safety net.
International footballers fit that profile perfectly.
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@suearcher @ChrisMayLA6 The problem is that the ideal UK immigrant is someone who was trained in their trade in their home country, comes to the UK for all of their productive years, therefore pays tax and national insurance contributions in the UK during those years, but who then returns to their home country when they are no longer productive and/or may actually need to rely on any kind of social security safety net.
International footballers fit that profile perfectly.
Yeah, good point.
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@ChrisMayLA6 add to that he's also been getting UK government subsidies for his INEOS chemicals company, while investing that money abroad and closing Grangemouth refinery in Scotland.
I gather he was also touting for government help to redevelop Old Trafford.
Just another rich sponger off the state.
Ratcliffe wants to use taxpayer money to rebuild Old Trafford
New Manchester United minority owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe reportedly wants to use public funding to help rebuild Old Trafford.
World Soccer Talk (worldsoccertalk.com)
@marjolica @ChrisMayLA6 and one of the 76% of people living in Monaco not born there. An immigrant in a much bigger proportion of that country.
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There's a radical division among Brits in France between those of us that recognise we are immigrants, and the colonial-types that call themselves 'ex-pats'.
@GeofCox @ChrisMayLA6 I wonder, how long it'll take for people to feel just European, or even better, Global Citizen.
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@GeofCox @ChrisMayLA6
I’ve always thought that ’ex-pat’ should be reserved for workers on fixed-term contracts. As soon as you decide to stay long-term, you clearly become an immigrant.Yes, there is a time and/or commitment aspect to it. 'Ex-pats' are definitely still very British, likely to return to the UK, less integrated in French society and generally more critical of French (or regional) culture.
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It's the thing I find most bewildering about the tribalism of football support. If a team was all local players, I'd understand people being proud of it.
@suearcher @kim @ChrisMayLA6 being loyal supporter of a team that buys and sells their players just seems kinda stupid. Fans are loyal but the players don't give a toss.
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