A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure
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Criminal charges for management?
Making directors responsible for things that they allow to happen in their company?
What an odd approach.
Haven't you learned the first rule of unregulated capitalism?
You can fine a company, but you can never criminally charge the directors whose actions resulted in the criminal actions of their companies. /s
@paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern
...do any of you really imagine that these datacenters are not subject to regulation?
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A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure
Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.
“We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."
Thank goodness for the affluent!
"Outrage started bubbling up last year when residents of an affluent subdivision named Annelise Park in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed their water pressure was unusually low"
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How the data centers operate. Always in secrecy.
"When the county utility investigated, officials discovered two industrial-scale water hookups feeding a data center campus located 20 miles south of downtown Atlanta. One water connection had been installed without the utility’s knowledge, and the other was not linked to the company’s account and therefore wasn’t being billed."
In other places, they don't have to steal the water: they get it for free.
@gerrymcgovern They're entitled to steal from the little people cos theyre doing a really important thing (keeping up with other billionaires' stealing).
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@paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern
...do any of you really imagine that these datacenters are not subject to regulation?
My post is not about regulation.
My post is about whether any persons are being held legally responsible when a company does intentionally and purposefully not follow regulations.
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@paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern
...do any of you really imagine that these datacenters are not subject to regulation?
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My post is not about regulation.
My post is about whether any persons are being held legally responsible when a company does intentionally and purposefully not follow regulations.
@paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern
"Haven't you learned the first rule of unregulated capitalism?"
"My post is not about regulation."
Hmm.
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@AlexanderKingsbury @paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern All of us.
@bewilderbeast23 @paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern
Well, I won't imagine you actually speak for anyone else unless and until I see them saying you do, but for you, if you imagine these sites are unregulated, you are deeply ignorant. Heck, just zoning laws apply; this is very low hanging fruit.
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@paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern
"Haven't you learned the first rule of unregulated capitalism?"
"My post is not about regulation."
Hmm.
My sentence clearly states that is is about 'the first rule of unregulated capitalism?'
The post is not about any regulations themselves.
Hmm?
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My sentence clearly states that is is about 'the first rule of unregulated capitalism?'
The post is not about any regulations themselves.
Hmm?
I never said it was about any regulations in and of themselves. But you complain about this "unregulated capitalism" in the context of datacenters, which is nonsensical. I challenge anyone to point to a single example, one, of a datacenter that actually exists and is not subject to regulations of some kind.
Just one.
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Criminal charges for management?
Making directors responsible for things that they allow to happen in their company?
What an odd approach.
Haven't you learned the first rule of unregulated capitalism?
You can fine a company, but you can never criminally charge the directors whose actions resulted in the criminal actions of their companies. /s
@paulschoe @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern Yes, I know. But this is plain theft. Which I think would be a different category. Wether you like it or not, the water company owned that water.
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A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure
Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.
“We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."
@gerrymcgovern And yet the owners of the data center don't care. They only see profit numbers and plan to buy their next luxury car or private jet.
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A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure
Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.
“We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."
@gerrymcgovern
thirty million gallons. sounds like a lot. is that 1 swimming pool, 10 swimming pools, 100 swimming pools, 100000000000 swimming pools?
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@paulschoe @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern Yes, I know. But this is plain theft. Which I think would be a different category. Wether you like it or not, the water company owned that water.
@J2
Plain theft. Just like Big Tech AI stole all our intellectual property to then sell it back to us? Just like bitcoin? Big Tech and the modern Internet is built on theft and criminality from the ground up. But the tech bros own the politicians, so it's not theft, it's innovation. -
Thank goodness for the affluent!
"Outrage started bubbling up last year when residents of an affluent subdivision named Annelise Park in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed their water pressure was unusually low"
@solownh That's it. And that's why the data centers try to target the poor areas and the rural communities, where they think they can get away with anything.
The more you look at this Western-made, high-tech society, the more disgusting and depraved it becomes. But if you stay on the surface, all you see are these shiny, addictive conveniences.
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I never said it was about any regulations in and of themselves. But you complain about this "unregulated capitalism" in the context of datacenters, which is nonsensical. I challenge anyone to point to a single example, one, of a datacenter that actually exists and is not subject to regulations of some kind.
Just one.
I talk about my 'First Rule of unregulated capitalism'.
If you are not able to conclude from that sentence that I am not talking about regulations themselves, then I am sorry.
Maybe my English is too limited to explain that I am not talking about regulations datacenters are subjected to.
Enjoy the day.
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@J2
Plain theft. Just like Big Tech AI stole all our intellectual property to then sell it back to us? Just like bitcoin? Big Tech and the modern Internet is built on theft and criminality from the ground up. But the tech bros own the politicians, so it's not theft, it's innovation.@gerrymcgovern @J2 @paulschoe @YimbyEarth Perhaps they are just assuming the same weird and obtuse interpretation of eminent domain rights as numerous oil and gas pipeline companies in the US? (I.e what's yours is mine, if I have adopted a business model that requires me to expropriate it.)
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@gerrymcgovern @J2 @paulschoe @YimbyEarth Perhaps they are just assuming the same weird and obtuse interpretation of eminent domain rights as numerous oil and gas pipeline companies in the US? (I.e what's yours is mine, if I have adopted a business model that requires me to expropriate it.)
That approach makes me think more about the modern IT/AI inustry.
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I talk about my 'First Rule of unregulated capitalism'.
If you are not able to conclude from that sentence that I am not talking about regulations themselves, then I am sorry.
Maybe my English is too limited to explain that I am not talking about regulations datacenters are subjected to.
Enjoy the day.
Please feel free to let me know if you ever come up with any actual defense for your claims.
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That approach makes me think more about the modern IT/AI inustry.
@paulschoe I guess there's a long history; letters patent, enclosure acts, colonialism, etc. Essentially any human activity involving exploitation of a power imbalance. In this case, the victims include other corporate entities. Something, something, class-struggle, etc.
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@solownh That's it. And that's why the data centers try to target the poor areas and the rural communities, where they think they can get away with anything.
The more you look at this Western-made, high-tech society, the more disgusting and depraved it becomes. But if you stay on the surface, all you see are these shiny, addictive conveniences.
@gerrymcgovern @solownh I predict a high rate of sabotage in the next few years. I say bring it on!
We can no longer simply just let "law and order" step in to fix this, because the whole goddamn system is corrupt now.
I am not a parent. If I was, you think I'm going to be okay with allowing these thieves to steal all natural resources?
And to think, I am pretty radical for a 56 year old, but there are people far more radical than I. The next few years are going to be very violent.
