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A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure

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  • A alexanderkingsbury@mastodon.social

    @paulschoe @J2 @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern

    "Haven't you learned the first rule of unregulated capitalism?"

    "My post is not about regulation."

    Hmm.

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    @AlexanderKingsbury

    My sentence clearly states that is is about 'the first rule of unregulated capitalism?'

    The post is not about any regulations themselves.

    Hmm?

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    • paulschoe@mastodon.worldP paulschoe@mastodon.world

      @AlexanderKingsbury

      My sentence clearly states that is is about 'the first rule of unregulated capitalism?'

      The post is not about any regulations themselves.

      Hmm?

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      @paulschoe

      I never said it was about any regulations in and of themselves. But you complain about this "unregulated capitalism" in the context of datacenters, which is nonsensical. I challenge anyone to point to a single example, one, of a datacenter that actually exists and is not subject to regulations of some kind.

      Just one.

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      • paulschoe@mastodon.worldP paulschoe@mastodon.world

        @J2

        Criminal charges for management?

        Making directors responsible for things that they allow to happen in their company?

        What an odd approach.

        Haven't you learned the first rule of unregulated capitalism?

        You can fine a company, but you can never criminally charge the directors whose actions resulted in the criminal actions of their companies. /s

        #Capitalism #Unregulated #UnregulatedCapitalism

        @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern

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        #15

        @paulschoe @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern Yes, I know. But this is plain theft. Which I think would be a different category. Wether you like it or not, the water company owned that water.

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        • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

          A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure

          Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.

          “We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."

          Just a moment...

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          @gerrymcgovern And yet the owners of the data center don't care. They only see profit numbers and plan to buy their next luxury car or private jet.

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          • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

            A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure

            Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.

            “We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."

            Just a moment...

            favicon

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            #17

            @gerrymcgovern
            thirty million gallons. sounds like a lot. is that 1 swimming pool, 10 swimming pools, 100 swimming pools, 100000000000 swimming pools?
            #metric

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            • j2@tldr.nettime.orgJ j2@tldr.nettime.org

              @paulschoe @YimbyEarth @gerrymcgovern Yes, I know. But this is plain theft. Which I think would be a different category. Wether you like it or not, the water company owned that water.

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              @J2
              Plain theft. Just like Big Tech AI stole all our intellectual property to then sell it back to us? Just like bitcoin? Big Tech and the modern Internet is built on theft and criminality from the ground up. But the tech bros own the politicians, so it's not theft, it's innovation.

              @paulschoe @YimbyEarth

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              • solownh@mstdn.partyS solownh@mstdn.party

                @gerrymcgovern

                Thank goodness for the affluent!

                "Outrage started bubbling up last year when residents of an affluent subdivision named Annelise Park in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed their water pressure was unusually low"

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                @solownh That's it. And that's why the data centers try to target the poor areas and the rural communities, where they think they can get away with anything.

                The more you look at this Western-made, high-tech society, the more disgusting and depraved it becomes. But if you stay on the surface, all you see are these shiny, addictive conveniences.

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                • A alexanderkingsbury@mastodon.social

                  @paulschoe

                  I never said it was about any regulations in and of themselves. But you complain about this "unregulated capitalism" in the context of datacenters, which is nonsensical. I challenge anyone to point to a single example, one, of a datacenter that actually exists and is not subject to regulations of some kind.

                  Just one.

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                  @AlexanderKingsbury

                  I talk about my 'First Rule of unregulated capitalism'.

                  If you are not able to conclude from that sentence that I am not talking about regulations themselves, then I am sorry.

                  Maybe my English is too limited to explain that I am not talking about regulations datacenters are subjected to.

                  Enjoy the day.

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                  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                    @J2
                    Plain theft. Just like Big Tech AI stole all our intellectual property to then sell it back to us? Just like bitcoin? Big Tech and the modern Internet is built on theft and criminality from the ground up. But the tech bros own the politicians, so it's not theft, it's innovation.

                    @paulschoe @YimbyEarth

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                    @gerrymcgovern @J2 @paulschoe @YimbyEarth Perhaps they are just assuming the same weird and obtuse interpretation of eminent domain rights as numerous oil and gas pipeline companies in the US? (I.e what's yours is mine, if I have adopted a business model that requires me to expropriate it.)

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                    • foxcj@mastodon.socialF foxcj@mastodon.social

                      @gerrymcgovern @J2 @paulschoe @YimbyEarth Perhaps they are just assuming the same weird and obtuse interpretation of eminent domain rights as numerous oil and gas pipeline companies in the US? (I.e what's yours is mine, if I have adopted a business model that requires me to expropriate it.)

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                      @foxcj

                      That approach makes me think more about the modern IT/AI inustry.

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                      • paulschoe@mastodon.worldP paulschoe@mastodon.world

                        @AlexanderKingsbury

                        I talk about my 'First Rule of unregulated capitalism'.

                        If you are not able to conclude from that sentence that I am not talking about regulations themselves, then I am sorry.

                        Maybe my English is too limited to explain that I am not talking about regulations datacenters are subjected to.

                        Enjoy the day.

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                        @paulschoe

                        Please feel free to let me know if you ever come up with any actual defense for your claims.

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                        • paulschoe@mastodon.worldP paulschoe@mastodon.world

                          @foxcj

                          That approach makes me think more about the modern IT/AI inustry.

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                          @paulschoe I guess there's a long history; letters patent, enclosure acts, colonialism, etc. Essentially any human activity involving exploitation of a power imbalance. In this case, the victims include other corporate entities. Something, something, class-struggle, etc.

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                          • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                            @solownh That's it. And that's why the data centers try to target the poor areas and the rural communities, where they think they can get away with anything.

                            The more you look at this Western-made, high-tech society, the more disgusting and depraved it becomes. But if you stay on the surface, all you see are these shiny, addictive conveniences.

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                            @gerrymcgovern @solownh I predict a high rate of sabotage in the next few years. I say bring it on!

                            We can no longer simply just let "law and order" step in to fix this, because the whole goddamn system is corrupt now.

                            I am not a parent. If I was, you think I'm going to be okay with allowing these thieves to steal all natural resources?

                            And to think, I am pretty radical for a 56 year old, but there are people far more radical than I. The next few years are going to be very violent.

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                            • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                              A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure

                              Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.

                              “We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (www.politico.com)

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                              @gerrymcgovern

                              The future billionaires envision is a deserted Earth with cooled data centers, and people dying of thirst. A mix of Terminator and Mad Max.

                              #EpsteinClass #Billionaires #dystopia #BillionairesApocalypse #DataCenters

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                              • oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ieO oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ie

                                @gerrymcgovern
                                thirty million gallons. sounds like a lot. is that 1 swimming pool, 10 swimming pools, 100 swimming pools, 100000000000 swimming pools?
                                #metric

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                                @OneInterestingFact @gerrymcgovern it depends on the size of the swimming pool. My parents had a smallish residential pool installed in our backyard when I was growing up. It took about 30,000 gallons to fill from empty.

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                                • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                                  A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed — until residents complained about low water pressure

                                  Residents in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed low water pressure last year. The utility discovered two unaccounted-for water connections at one of the nation’s largest data center campuses.

                                  “We get this notification from Fayette County water system saying you need to stop watering your lawns to help conserve water."

                                  Just a moment...

                                  favicon

                                  (www.politico.com)

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                                  @gerrymcgovern I wonder what would happen to residential customers if they installed multiple, unbilled connections to the utility system

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