Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
Great line: "To draw an analogy with health care, focusing on deaths per mile driven is like trying to reduce the number of cancer deaths per cigarette smoked."
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
@davidzipper Great article. Super depth. Fantastic metaphor to smoking!
We are lucky they count road deaths at all. The American approach, lately, is that if counting the thing makes it look bad, then we stop counting or we count it in a dishonest way that justifies ignoring the problem.
Look at COVID, endangered species, vaccines, unemployment, foreign influence in politics, ICE atrocities, gun violence, climate change, etc. Every one of these major social issues has some problematic metric or two at the core of our societal response. Some perverse way to look at the problem and justify tepid action.
So while this is true of traffic deaths, it's just a symptom of a much larger cultural defect. A big culture shift like we did with smoking in the 80s and 90s is not going to happen until we confront people in power with their refusal to look at data honestly (or at all, sometimes).
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
Thank you for the article!
I have always assumed the use of accidents per X miles was a deliberate attempt to understate the deadliness of driving.
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
@davidzipper Isn't there also a measurement like per passenger mile (km) which people use to show how safe planes and trains are. Is that available for car fatalities in the US?
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
There are a few other metrics missing, like pedestrians and cyclists driven out of the public sphere.
See several contributions to the subject US and traffic victims.
https://www.youtube.com/@NotJustBikes/videos
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There are a few other metrics missing, like pedestrians and cyclists driven out of the public sphere.
See several contributions to the subject US and traffic victims.
https://www.youtube.com/@NotJustBikes/videos
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These two for example on car design and car safety premises:
- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
(www.youtube.com)
- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
(www.youtube.com)
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These two for example on car design and car safety premises:
- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
(www.youtube.com)
- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
(www.youtube.com)
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Lack of insight and willingness to learn from others... ending i a self-fullfiling path of disaster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dHFC31VtQ3/
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Lack of insight and willingness to learn from others... ending i a self-fullfiling path of disaster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dHFC31VtQ3/
Unrealistic expectation and propaganda instead of true stats and an honest assessment... getting it horribly wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPduRHBhHI
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Unrealistic expectation and propaganda instead of true stats and an honest assessment... getting it horribly wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPduRHBhHI
4/How Ponzi style suburbia is preventing the US to get out of an evil circle and cars remain essential...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0
5/end...and a few more on the US and why their traffic stats are what they are.
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How Ponzi style suburbia is preventing the US to get out of an evil circle and cars remain essential...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0
5/end...and a few more on the US and why their traffic stats are what they are.
@davidzipper
I think I should add this one to the list:- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
(www.youtube.com)
Netherlands having kids out and about on bikes on their own, while keeping them safe.
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
Looking at it from the outside, I find it interesting that they use per mile rather than per capita, since per capita is So Much Easier to calculate and doesn't involve so much inference about how much driving is being done. It feels like it's been purposely hiding the truth all along (which, it seems like is true from your reporting).
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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.
If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.
Me, in Bloomberg
@davidzipper
In other news, US Deaths Per Bullet Fired are on par with other countries. -
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