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Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.

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  • davidzipper@mastodon.socialD davidzipper@mastodon.social

    Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.

    If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.

    It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.

    Me, in Bloomberg

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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    #safety #policy #crashes

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    @davidzipper

    Thank you for the article!

    I have always assumed the use of accidents per X miles was a deliberate attempt to understate the deadliness of driving.

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    • davidzipper@mastodon.socialD davidzipper@mastodon.social

      Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.

      If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.

      It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.

      Me, in Bloomberg

      Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

      favicon

      (www.bloomberg.com)

      #safety #policy #crashes

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      etp@indieweb.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @davidzipper Isn't there also a measurement like per passenger mile (km) which people use to show how safe planes and trains are. Is that available for car fatalities in the US?

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      • davidzipper@mastodon.socialD davidzipper@mastodon.social

        Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.

        If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.

        It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.

        Me, in Bloomberg

        Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

        favicon

        (www.bloomberg.com)

        #safety #policy #crashes

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        silkester@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @davidzipper

        There are a few other metrics missing, like pedestrians and cyclists driven out of the public sphere.

        See several contributions to the subject US and traffic victims.

        https://www.youtube.com/@NotJustBikes/videos

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        • silkester@mastodon.socialS silkester@mastodon.social

          @davidzipper

          There are a few other metrics missing, like pedestrians and cyclists driven out of the public sphere.

          See several contributions to the subject US and traffic victims.

          https://www.youtube.com/@NotJustBikes/videos

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          wrote last edited by
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          @davidzipper

          These two for example on car design and car safety premises:

          - YouTube

          Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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          - YouTube

          Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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          • silkester@mastodon.socialS silkester@mastodon.social

            @davidzipper

            These two for example on car design and car safety premises:

            - YouTube

            Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

            favicon

            (www.youtube.com)

            - YouTube

            Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

            favicon

            (www.youtube.com)

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            wrote last edited by
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            @davidzipper

            Lack of insight and willingness to learn from others... ending i a self-fullfiling path of disaster:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dHFC31VtQ

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            • silkester@mastodon.socialS silkester@mastodon.social

              @davidzipper

              Lack of insight and willingness to learn from others... ending i a self-fullfiling path of disaster:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dHFC31VtQ

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              @davidzipper

              Unrealistic expectation and propaganda instead of true stats and an honest assessment... getting it horribly wrong:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPduRHBhHI
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              • silkester@mastodon.socialS silkester@mastodon.social

                @davidzipper

                Unrealistic expectation and propaganda instead of true stats and an honest assessment... getting it horribly wrong:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPduRHBhHI
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                @davidzipper

                How Ponzi style suburbia is preventing the US to get out of an evil circle and cars remain essential...
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0
                5/end

                ...and a few more on the US and why their traffic stats are what they are.

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                • silkester@mastodon.socialS silkester@mastodon.social

                  @davidzipper

                  How Ponzi style suburbia is preventing the US to get out of an evil circle and cars remain essential...
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0
                  5/end

                  ...and a few more on the US and why their traffic stats are what they are.

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                  @davidzipper
                  I think I should add this one to the list:

                  - YouTube

                  Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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                  Netherlands having kids out and about on bikes on their own, while keeping them safe.

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                  • davidzipper@mastodon.socialD davidzipper@mastodon.social

                    Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.

                    If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.

                    It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.

                    Me, in Bloomberg

                    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

                    favicon

                    (www.bloomberg.com)

                    #safety #policy #crashes

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                    #15

                    Looking at it from the outside, I find it interesting that they use per mile rather than per capita, since per capita is So Much Easier to calculate and doesn't involve so much inference about how much driving is being done. It feels like it's been purposely hiding the truth all along (which, it seems like is true from your reporting).
                    @davidzipper

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                    • davidzipper@mastodon.socialD davidzipper@mastodon.social

                      Americans drive a lot more than people in other rich countries.

                      If we didn’t drive so much, we wouldn’t die in so many crashes.

                      It’s a simple point, but one that NHTSA, traffic engineers, and many road safety org’s have yet to learn.

                      Me, in Bloomberg

                      Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

                      favicon

                      (www.bloomberg.com)

                      #safety #policy #crashes

                      Link Preview Image
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                      wrote last edited by
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                      @davidzipper
                      In other news, US Deaths Per Bullet Fired are on par with other countries.

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