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  • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

    @Kalki_Rider They are the strongest democracies in the world, with the highest dedication to human rights.

    I don't know where you are, but my US is failing in both metrics, rapidly.

    @woozle @davidnjoku

    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @solitha Look at the profile. Typical trolling, nearly no followers. @Kalki_Rider@mastodon.social @woozle @davidnjoku

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    • fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku Yes, and eBook publishers are very angry about that is the point.

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      • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

        Random thought.

        If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

        Support your local library.

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        @davidnjoku I think they would be invented anyway, but with a paywall...

        Libraries as we know them in the 16th and 17th century were basically collections of books for the royal family, other wealthy, powerful people and the church. In the 18th there was a change towards public access (although that didn't mean everybody could enter, more like academics and students). Also some libraries started as paid book clubs, where you could access the collections if you paid a fee. True open libraries, at least in Europe, weren't conceived until past the French revolution and their declaration of rights, the rise in mandatory education and the idea of the democratization of access to information. (Excuse the info dump, I'm currently studying this XD)

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          @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku I don't know what to tell you, this is a huge battle in both the US (https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2023/05/book-publishers-are-trying-to-destroy-public-e-book-access-in-order-to-increase-profits) and the EU (https://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/onleihe-fair-lesen-bibliotheken-urheberrecht-boersenverein-1.5451709). The publishers I'm talking about are all of the big oligopolists. Penguin RandomHouse, HarperCollins, Hachette, Pearson, you name it.

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          • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

            Random thought.

            If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

            Support your local library.

            christianschwaegerl@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @davidnjoku Word!

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            • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

              Random thought.

              If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

              Support your local library.

              dcgirl@boop.cityD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @davidnjoku it's weird because this is my library:
              https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/d-c-public-library-receives-largest-donation-in-history-2-7-million/

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              • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku No, they are not. Say the wrong thing there and the police will come to your door. Fail to comply with their complaints and you will suffer. This is not freedom.

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                @Kalki_Rider

                Even if true, that has nothing to do with socialism.

                @solitha @davidnjoku

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                • dcgirl@boop.cityD dcgirl@boop.city

                  @davidnjoku it's weird because this is my library:
                  https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/d-c-public-library-receives-largest-donation-in-history-2-7-million/

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                  @dcgirl Oh wow. That's amazing. If I had any integrity I'd apologise to Mr Bezos and delete my toot. 😀

                  I think I'll leave it up for all the other shit he's done.

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                  • fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku If you read the actual articles you'll see that you're wrong. Not just the headline, the actual text of both articles. This is such an absurd thing to dispute, you can just do a 5 second search in your search engine of choice. Here's an article straight from the, no kidding, publishers weekly: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/libraries/article/80689-libraries-must-draw-the-line-on-e-books.html

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                    • fabio@zirk.usF fabio@zirk.us

                      @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku If you read the actual articles you'll see that you're wrong. Not just the headline, the actual text of both articles. This is such an absurd thing to dispute, you can just do a 5 second search in your search engine of choice. Here's an article straight from the, no kidding, publishers weekly: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/libraries/article/80689-libraries-must-draw-the-line-on-e-books.html

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                      @fabio Thank you so much for explaining me my profession. 🖕🏻 I would never had the idea that articles can be read. 🤣

                      Note: you may compare apples and pears, I'll do not.

                      @si_fuller @davidnjoku

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                      • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                        Random thought.

                        If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                        Support your local library.

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                        @davidnjoku case in point: all the people trying to take down Internet Archive

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                        • fabio@zirk.usF fabio@zirk.us

                          @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku Yes, and eBook publishers are very angry about that is the point.

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                          @fabio@zirk.us @si_fuller I publish all my books also as ebooks and know a lot of colleagues and publishers, but nobody who is angry. Here in Europe, authors are paid for lending in libraries by copyright collectives. If you lend e or print doesn't matter, important is the number of lendings. Publishers are glad about libraries! They organise events and lectures in libraries.

                          Who are those publishers you speak about? In which country?

                          @davidnjoku

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                          • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                            @solitha Look at the profile. Typical trolling, nearly no followers. @Kalki_Rider@mastodon.social @woozle @davidnjoku

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                            @NatureMC Yeah, look at mine. I don't judge by that metric, at least not on its own. Sometimes people have reasons.

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