Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. Random thought.

Random thought.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
58 Posts 27 Posters 77 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    @ReggieHere it was designed that way wasn’t it? And then we poured the money on top. And starting in 1997 I became part of the problem

    @davidnjoku

    reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    reggiehere@mastodon.social
    wrote last edited by
    #42

    @urlyman

    Yes, so many of us were dragged into the IT industry at that time, regardless of what we may have previously studied or trained to do.

    In the 1990s I remember reading an article, not dissimilar to the 'Will AI replace my job?' articles we have today, and 'Librarian' topped a list of professions that would no longer exist in the newly-computerised world.

    @davidnjoku

    urlyman@mastodon.socialU 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

      @urlyman

      Yes, so many of us were dragged into the IT industry at that time, regardless of what we may have previously studied or trained to do.

      In the 1990s I remember reading an article, not dissimilar to the 'Will AI replace my job?' articles we have today, and 'Librarian' topped a list of professions that would no longer exist in the newly-computerised world.

      @davidnjoku

      urlyman@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
      urlyman@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
      urlyman@mastodon.social
      wrote last edited by
      #43

      @ReggieHere I was lured in by reading Wired articles even though I sensed back then that much of it was full of shit.

      @davidnjoku

      reggiehere@mastodon.socialR 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

        @ReggieHere I was lured in by reading Wired articles even though I sensed back then that much of it was full of shit.

        @davidnjoku

        reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        reggiehere@mastodon.social
        wrote last edited by
        #44

        @urlyman

        I think most of us have a similar story of that time, and the bizarre part was that the same industry essentially recreated librarians in the 2000s to deal with the data silos that had been created in the 80s and 90s thanks to a lack of standards that would have otherwise been created by librarians.

        Most of the IT roles starting with 'data' (data scientist, data wrangler, data manager, ...) have a physical analogue that pre-dates the IT industry by centuries.

        @davidnjoku

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

          Random thought.

          If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

          Support your local library.

          gvs@rebelbase.siteG This user is from outside of this forum
          gvs@rebelbase.siteG This user is from outside of this forum
          gvs@rebelbase.site
          wrote last edited by
          #45
          @davidnjoku One, we don't have capitalism, we have neoliberalism (which needs big government). Two, though you are right that they wouldn't be funded with money taken through proxy violence, that doesn't mean the concept would be entirely dead. Capitalism doesn't exclude collective but voluntary initiatives, quite the contrary.
          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

            @Kalki_Rider They are the strongest democracies in the world, with the highest dedication to human rights.

            I don't know where you are, but my US is failing in both metrics, rapidly.

            @woozle @davidnjoku

            naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
            naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
            naturemc@mastodon.online
            wrote last edited by
            #46

            @solitha Look at the profile. Typical trolling, nearly no followers. @Kalki_Rider@mastodon.social @woozle @davidnjoku

            solitha@mastodon.socialS 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
              fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
              fabio@zirk.us
              wrote last edited by
              #47

              @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku Yes, and eBook publishers are very angry about that is the point.

              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                Random thought.

                If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                Support your local library.

                kurio@sunny.gardenK This user is from outside of this forum
                kurio@sunny.gardenK This user is from outside of this forum
                kurio@sunny.garden
                wrote last edited by
                #48

                @davidnjoku I think they would be invented anyway, but with a paywall...

                Libraries as we know them in the 16th and 17th century were basically collections of books for the royal family, other wealthy, powerful people and the church. In the 18th there was a change towards public access (although that didn't mean everybody could enter, more like academics and students). Also some libraries started as paid book clubs, where you could access the collections if you paid a fee. True open libraries, at least in Europe, weren't conceived until past the French revolution and their declaration of rights, the rise in mandatory education and the idea of the democratization of access to information. (Excuse the info dump, I'm currently studying this XD)

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                  fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                  fabio@zirk.us
                  wrote last edited by
                  #49

                  @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku I don't know what to tell you, this is a huge battle in both the US (https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2023/05/book-publishers-are-trying-to-destroy-public-e-book-access-in-order-to-increase-profits) and the EU (https://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/onleihe-fair-lesen-bibliotheken-urheberrecht-boersenverein-1.5451709). The publishers I'm talking about are all of the big oligopolists. Penguin RandomHouse, HarperCollins, Hachette, Pearson, you name it.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                    Random thought.

                    If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                    Support your local library.

                    christianschwaegerl@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                    christianschwaegerl@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                    christianschwaegerl@mastodon.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #50

                    @davidnjoku Word!

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                      Random thought.

                      If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                      Support your local library.

                      dcgirl@boop.cityD This user is from outside of this forum
                      dcgirl@boop.cityD This user is from outside of this forum
                      dcgirl@boop.city
                      wrote last edited by
                      #51

                      @davidnjoku it's weird because this is my library:
                      https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/d-c-public-library-receives-largest-donation-in-history-2-7-million/

                      davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                        @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku No, they are not. Say the wrong thing there and the police will come to your door. Fail to comply with their complaints and you will suffer. This is not freedom.

                        woozle@toot.catW This user is from outside of this forum
                        woozle@toot.catW This user is from outside of this forum
                        woozle@toot.cat
                        wrote last edited by
                        #52

                        @Kalki_Rider

                        Even if true, that has nothing to do with socialism.

                        @solitha @davidnjoku

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • dcgirl@boop.cityD dcgirl@boop.city

                          @davidnjoku it's weird because this is my library:
                          https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/d-c-public-library-receives-largest-donation-in-history-2-7-million/

                          davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
                          davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
                          davidnjoku@mastodon.world
                          wrote last edited by
                          #53

                          @dcgirl Oh wow. That's amazing. If I had any integrity I'd apologise to Mr Bezos and delete my toot. 😀

                          I think I'll leave it up for all the other shit he's done.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                            fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                            fabio@zirk.us
                            wrote last edited by
                            #54

                            @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku If you read the actual articles you'll see that you're wrong. Not just the headline, the actual text of both articles. This is such an absurd thing to dispute, you can just do a 5 second search in your search engine of choice. Here's an article straight from the, no kidding, publishers weekly: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/libraries/article/80689-libraries-must-draw-the-line-on-e-books.html

                            naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • fabio@zirk.usF fabio@zirk.us

                              @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku If you read the actual articles you'll see that you're wrong. Not just the headline, the actual text of both articles. This is such an absurd thing to dispute, you can just do a 5 second search in your search engine of choice. Here's an article straight from the, no kidding, publishers weekly: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/libraries/article/80689-libraries-must-draw-the-line-on-e-books.html

                              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                              naturemc@mastodon.online
                              wrote last edited by
                              #55

                              @fabio Thank you so much for explaining me my profession. 🖕🏻 I would never had the idea that articles can be read. 🤣

                              Note: you may compare apples and pears, I'll do not.

                              @si_fuller @davidnjoku

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                                Random thought.

                                If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                                Support your local library.

                                artemis201@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                artemis201@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                artemis201@mstdn.social
                                wrote last edited by
                                #56

                                @davidnjoku case in point: all the people trying to take down Internet Archive

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • fabio@zirk.usF fabio@zirk.us

                                  @NatureMC @si_fuller @davidnjoku Yes, and eBook publishers are very angry about that is the point.

                                  naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  naturemc@mastodon.online
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #57

                                  @fabio@zirk.us @si_fuller I publish all my books also as ebooks and know a lot of colleagues and publishers, but nobody who is angry. Here in Europe, authors are paid for lending in libraries by copyright collectives. If you lend e or print doesn't matter, important is the number of lendings. Publishers are glad about libraries! They organise events and lectures in libraries.

                                  Who are those publishers you speak about? In which country?

                                  @davidnjoku

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                    @solitha Look at the profile. Typical trolling, nearly no followers. @Kalki_Rider@mastodon.social @woozle @davidnjoku

                                    solitha@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    solitha@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    solitha@mastodon.social
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #58

                                    @NatureMC Yeah, look at mine. I don't judge by that metric, at least not on its own. Sometimes people have reasons.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • zak@infosec.exchangeZ zak@infosec.exchange shared this topic
                                    Reply
                                    • Reply as topic
                                    Log in to reply
                                    • Oldest to Newest
                                    • Newest to Oldest
                                    • Most Votes


                                    • Login

                                    • Login or register to search.
                                    • First post
                                      Last post
                                    0
                                    • Categories
                                    • Recent
                                    • Tags
                                    • Popular
                                    • World
                                    • Users
                                    • Groups