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Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,Fuck you.

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  • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

    @alice

    This discomfort has been attributed to a bogeyman, a construct called "reply guys". Guess what? It's quite normal for people to want to share their ideas and reaction to your ideas. That's why it's called "social" media.

    So how do we assuage these concerns? Perhaps Fedi platforms, such as Mastodon, should default to a more restrictive setting on who can reply to your toots. Anyone can change the settings in their personal preferences, though newcomers find it too inconvenient.

    2/n

    purrperl@noc.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @alice

    We could provide newcomers with step-by-step instructions on how to change their settings so that only people they follow can reply to their posts. Though the newcomers who complain about "reply guys" are the ones least likely to follow this inconvenient procedure to get rid of unwanted replies.

    Reply guys don't exist. If you're unhappy about Mohammed from Gaza replying to your toots in bad English, fix your settings.

    Democracy can be uncomfortable, and requires conscious effort.

    3/3

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
      Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

      Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
      Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

      Dear Adult Content Posters,
      Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

      Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
      Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

      Dear Everyone,
      Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

      Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

      We've got a good thing here.

      /endRant

      idoodle@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #29

      @alice
      Thank you, Alice ✌🏾

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
        Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

        Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
        Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

        Dear Adult Content Posters,
        Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

        Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
        Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

        Dear Everyone,
        Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

        Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

        We've got a good thing here.

        /endRant

        qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #30

        @alice I should add: don't abuse message editing. Once I saw a poster editing a humour post adding a line to cause a gender war (e.g. "men should not reply" after many men replied). That's bait and switch. It's disrespectful. That's not lovely.

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
          Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

          Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
          Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

          Dear Adult Content Posters,
          Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

          Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
          Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

          Dear Everyone,
          Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

          Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

          We've got a good thing here.

          /endRant

          drewseph@ohai.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
          drewseph@ohai.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #31

          @alice Well said! Also thank you, now I know what a Sea Lion is, never heard of such a thing (in this context)

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          • jetsoft@hachyderm.ioJ jetsoft@hachyderm.io

            @alice I'm just triggered by the endrant closing without a startrant opening. Feels wrong. Unmatched brackets.
            (JOKE))

            But i am thinking of starting to filter some of the links to the more annoying ad filled sites.
            Oh an bots that repeat the headline text twice and then again in the links preview.

            alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #32

            @jetsoft I get that. It's like when someone starts a quote with '"' and then forgets the "'" at the end.

            I added all the big tech social platforms and their other domains to my blocklist, so I can click the links, but they just take me to a "whoops, that page has been blocked" page.

            /startRant

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            • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

              @alice

              We could provide newcomers with step-by-step instructions on how to change their settings so that only people they follow can reply to their posts. Though the newcomers who complain about "reply guys" are the ones least likely to follow this inconvenient procedure to get rid of unwanted replies.

              Reply guys don't exist. If you're unhappy about Mohammed from Gaza replying to your toots in bad English, fix your settings.

              Democracy can be uncomfortable, and requires conscious effort.

              3/3

              alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
              alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #33

              @purrperl wait a sec, did you just spend three replies implying I'm new here, not familiar with the settings available, and explaining away reply guys to me...an admin who has been here for years longer and has over 20x the followers?

              Ngl, that's pretty `reply guy` 💁🏼‍♀️

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              • dan@friendsofdesoto.socialD dan@friendsofdesoto.social

                @alice

                I can't be the only one who had to look up sea lions (searching for it along with "reply guy" got me past the cute mammals). Here you go:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                Yay learning! And thanks, Alice, for your championing of the community here in the Fedi!

                alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #34

                @dan that comic is such a good representation of sea lioning 😁

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
                  Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

                  Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
                  Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

                  Dear Adult Content Posters,
                  Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

                  Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
                  Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

                  Dear Everyone,
                  Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

                  Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

                  We've got a good thing here.

                  /endRant

                  nickgates@friendsofdesoto.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #35

                  @alice ❤️

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                  • x41h@infosec.exchangeX x41h@infosec.exchange

                    @alice Got ya. Wonder if I need to check my settings. I've literally never saw any content from yourself or others.

                    alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #36

                    @x41h well, if you have any interest, my gallery is freely available from a pinned post on my profile.

                    If that's not your thing, totally valid too 💖

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #37

                      @lispi314 true. Laws vary wildly, and even if it's not illegal in your area, stealing someone's art and reposting it is still a fucked up thing to do.

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                      • idoodle@mastodon.socialI idoodle@mastodon.social

                        @alice
                        Thank you, Alice ✌🏾

                        alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #38

                        @IDoodle totes 💕

                        I'm just trying to use my platform to keep this platform from turning into *that* platform.

                        We're all neighbors here 💞

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @lispi314 these accounts farm followers off the artistic work of others, specifically sexworkers. By stealing our work and reposting it (especially without attribution), they're literally taking potential paying customers from us, while also making us less safe, and less likely to produce art on that platform.

                          Part of the social contract of me taking my clothes off for Fedi is that folx don't take advantage of that by redistributing copies elsewhere.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            @purrperl wait a sec, did you just spend three replies implying I'm new here, not familiar with the settings available, and explaining away reply guys to me...an admin who has been here for years longer and has over 20x the followers?

                            Ngl, that's pretty `reply guy` 💁🏼‍♀️

                            purrperl@noc.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #40

                            @alice

                            It's not about you or me, just some ideas on a general issue people encounter on the Fediverse, and suggestions on how to address them.

                            If you think you're above discussing things earnestly, so perfect that learning anything new is insulting, what can I say?

                            queer: you (1), me(1)
                            pansexual you(1), me(1)
                            enby: you(1), me(1)
                            autistic: you(1), me(1)
                            fedi-experienced: you(1), me(1)
                            POC: you(0), me(1)

                            TOTAL: you(5), me(6)

                            I'm the bigger victim here.
                            Stop oppressing me, white folx!!! 😂

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              @purrperl wait a sec, did you just spend three replies implying I'm new here, not familiar with the settings available, and explaining away reply guys to me...an admin who has been here for years longer and has over 20x the followers?

                              Ngl, that's pretty `reply guy` 💁🏼‍♀️

                              purrperl@noc.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #41

                              @alice

                              It's a pretty autistic style of communication to pedantically give context, before getting to the point. If that insults you, you are an oppressor of minorities.

                              Some cogent ideas were put forth, for discussion. If you're insulted, then yes, I am the reply guy, the bad guy. Block me now. Complain to my fedi instance admin. Have me expelled. Silence the poor brown person. 😂

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
                                Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

                                Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
                                Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

                                Dear Adult Content Posters,
                                Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

                                Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
                                Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

                                Dear Everyone,
                                Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

                                Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

                                We've got a good thing here.

                                /endRant

                                knownasrose@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #42

                                @alice Good rant.

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                                • dan@friendsofdesoto.socialD dan@friendsofdesoto.social

                                  @alice

                                  I can't be the only one who had to look up sea lions (searching for it along with "reply guy" got me past the cute mammals). Here you go:
                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                  Yay learning! And thanks, Alice, for your championing of the community here in the Fedi!

                                  cyberwitch@goingdark.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #43

                                  @dan @alice same here lol. I've only spent a grand total of 20 minutes on Twitter before the psych damage was too much, so theres probably a lot of terms like this I've missed

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    This rant brought to you by the spam accounts and bigoted trolls I suspended his morning, and the reply guys and death threats I've received since posting it.

                                    Edited for inclusivity.

                                    captainvellalives@lgbtqia.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #44

                                    @alice thank you so much for everything you do to make this space the kind and awesome place it is 🥰

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                                    • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

                                      @alice

                                      It's a pretty autistic style of communication to pedantically give context, before getting to the point. If that insults you, you are an oppressor of minorities.

                                      Some cogent ideas were put forth, for discussion. If you're insulted, then yes, I am the reply guy, the bad guy. Block me now. Complain to my fedi instance admin. Have me expelled. Silence the poor brown person. 😂

                                      alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      alice@lgbtqia.space
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                                      #45

                                      @purrperl you really didn't look at anything about me before making assumptions did you?

                                      Also, you keep mentioning that you're brown-skinned like the color of your skin has anything to do with my replies or you speedrunning the Sea Lion meme (which someone shared earlier in the thread).

                                      Here, I'll share it again for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                      And on that note, I'm done with conversation.

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        @purrperl you really didn't look at anything about me before making assumptions did you?

                                        Also, you keep mentioning that you're brown-skinned like the color of your skin has anything to do with my replies or you speedrunning the Sea Lion meme (which someone shared earlier in the thread).

                                        Here, I'll share it again for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                        And on that note, I'm done with conversation.

                                        purrperl@noc.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #46

                                        @alice

                                        I checked your profile and hashtags.

                                        Help! Help! They're "whitesplaining" to me! 😂

                                        New rule: Any time a "white" person says anything, true or not, a POC is allowed to cry "whitesplaining", and avenge centuries of oppression, and shut them down, by summoning a crowd of POC.

                                        No point casting my pearls to callow people who take things personally and get triggered, then try to use terms like "mansplaining". 😂

                                        Okay, I'm done with this conversation too. Sayonara!

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          @x41h well, if you have any interest, my gallery is freely available from a pinned post on my profile.

                                          If that's not your thing, totally valid too 💖

                                          x41h@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #47

                                          @alice I shall check it out )

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