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Should I switch from #Fedora to #Archlinux?

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  • miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Should I switch from #Fedora to #Archlinux? Been thinking about it for a while now 🤔

    msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM mikael@hachyderm.ioM fabiscafe@mstdn.socialF zstg@fedia.socialZ 4 Replies Last reply
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    • miked@social.tchncs.deM miked@social.tchncs.de

      Should I switch from #Fedora to #Archlinux? Been thinking about it for a while now 🤔

      msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
      msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @miked@social.tchncs.de yes. no. maybe. maybe not. why? why not?

      i never understand how peeps expect complete strangers to make up their mind for them.

      one very obvious strategy is to make yourself an
      ​​ VM, then muck about with it for a month, to ascertain if it floats your boat or not.

      only
      you know what factors are important to you, in any putative distro.

      #dropbearpooterising #linuxwomen

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      • miked@social.tchncs.deM miked@social.tchncs.de

        Should I switch from #Fedora to #Archlinux? Been thinking about it for a while now 🤔

        mikael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
        mikael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @miked My opinion is that Fedora is a good OS if you mainly want a stable platform for getting things done, while Arch may be a better choice if you’re interested in tinkering with your OS for the sake of tinkering. Both are good operating systems, and the Arch wiki is legendary even among people not running Arch, but in my experience Fedora just keeps working year after year while Arch can’t be trusted to not break occasionally, and reading change logs for your installed packages - at the very least after the fact - is more or less necessary to keep downtime to a minimum.

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        • miked@social.tchncs.deM miked@social.tchncs.de

          Should I switch from #Fedora to #Archlinux? Been thinking about it for a while now 🤔

          fabiscafe@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
          fabiscafe@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @miked Depends on your expectations in Arch

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          • msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM msdropbear42@blahaj.zone

            @miked@social.tchncs.de yes. no. maybe. maybe not. why? why not?

            i never understand how peeps expect complete strangers to make up their mind for them.

            one very obvious strategy is to make yourself an
            ​​ VM, then muck about with it for a month, to ascertain if it floats your boat or not.

            only
            you know what factors are important to you, in any putative distro.

            #dropbearpooterising #linuxwomen

            miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
            miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @MsDropbear42 I appreciate your answer and the VM tip! 🙂 I'm not expecting anyone to make up my mind for me. Just trying to learn about other people's experiences and engage in discourse. Maybe make some like-minded internet friends? 😛

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            • mikael@hachyderm.ioM mikael@hachyderm.io

              @miked My opinion is that Fedora is a good OS if you mainly want a stable platform for getting things done, while Arch may be a better choice if you’re interested in tinkering with your OS for the sake of tinkering. Both are good operating systems, and the Arch wiki is legendary even among people not running Arch, but in my experience Fedora just keeps working year after year while Arch can’t be trusted to not break occasionally, and reading change logs for your installed packages - at the very least after the fact - is more or less necessary to keep downtime to a minimum.

              miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
              miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mikael your opinion is greatly appreciated! Thank you very much! Those were my fears as well about running Arch 😬

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              • fabiscafe@mstdn.socialF fabiscafe@mstdn.social

                @miked Depends on your expectations in Arch

                miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @fabiscafe Fair enough. Going in blind tbh XD I want things to work, obviously, but I also love tinkering.

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                • miked@social.tchncs.deM miked@social.tchncs.de

                  @MsDropbear42 I appreciate your answer and the VM tip! 🙂 I'm not expecting anyone to make up my mind for me. Just trying to learn about other people's experiences and engage in discourse. Maybe make some like-minded internet friends? 😛

                  msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                  msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @miked@social.tchncs.de ok, but i could not read your mind, only read your written words.

                  fwiw, imo,
                  ​​ is great, but so are many other distros, it all depends on one's hands-on or hands-off preference. my tower runs two instances of arch kde plasma [different installation modes], one of kdelinux, with thoughts of adding SparkyLinux Testing kde plasma in coming weeks. my lappy now runs said Sparky. on both pooters til recently i ran ​​ kinoite, but i recently made a values decision to abandon fedora coz 1. merkan, & 2. they seem to be letting gen-ai in, to both of which things i vehemently morally object. other peeps ofc will make very different choices. good luck.


                  #DropbearPooterising #Linux #LinuxWomen #FOSS
                  ​​ #Kinoite | ​​ ​​ #ArchLinux #KDEPlasma
                  ​​ #SparkyLinux | ​​ #Kalpa | ​​ ​​ #KDELinux
                  ​​ #FirefoxNightly #FirefoxSecondSidebar #TreeStyleTab #Sidebery

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                  • msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM msdropbear42@blahaj.zone

                    @miked@social.tchncs.de ok, but i could not read your mind, only read your written words.

                    fwiw, imo,
                    ​​ is great, but so are many other distros, it all depends on one's hands-on or hands-off preference. my tower runs two instances of arch kde plasma [different installation modes], one of kdelinux, with thoughts of adding SparkyLinux Testing kde plasma in coming weeks. my lappy now runs said Sparky. on both pooters til recently i ran ​​ kinoite, but i recently made a values decision to abandon fedora coz 1. merkan, & 2. they seem to be letting gen-ai in, to both of which things i vehemently morally object. other peeps ofc will make very different choices. good luck.


                    #DropbearPooterising #Linux #LinuxWomen #FOSS
                    ​​ #Kinoite | ​​ ​​ #ArchLinux #KDEPlasma
                    ​​ #SparkyLinux | ​​ #Kalpa | ​​ ​​ #KDELinux
                    ​​ #FirefoxNightly #FirefoxSecondSidebar #TreeStyleTab #Sidebery

                    miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @MsDropbear42 thanks for the answer! you really put in a lot of effort with all those emojis and hashtags 😅

                    2 follow-up questions: what's merkan and how/where are they letting gen-ai in Fedora? 🤔

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                    • miked@social.tchncs.deM miked@social.tchncs.de

                      @MsDropbear42 thanks for the answer! you really put in a lot of effort with all those emojis and hashtags 😅

                      2 follow-up questions: what's merkan and how/where are they letting gen-ai in Fedora? 🤔

                      msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @miked@social.tchncs.de

                      1. merkan = american, ie
                      usa 🤢🤮🤬🖕. #fucktrump

                      2. in multiple fediverse posts, over recent weeks, there were many links & references to some official fedora blog articles where some senior person there was explaining their new policy on ai. various popular tech sites then also began reporting on it. some links a quick search dug up now fyi:
                      https://itsfoss.com/news/fedora-ai-developer-desktop-stalled/
                      https://byteiota.com/fedoras-ai-developer-desktop-was-approved-then-blocked-heres-why/
                      https://app.daily.dev/posts/heavy-community-backlash-blocks-fedora-s-ai-developer-desktop-initiative-bvh8ybqfj
                      https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/policy/ai-contribution-policy/
                      https://linuxiac.com/fedora-opens-the-door-to-ai-tools/
                      https://ostechnix.com/fedora-ai-contribution-policy/
                      whilst afaict the current status is in flux, the fact they have not unambiguously banned it, makes me apprehensive about them eventually accepting it. this uncertainty, combined with my moral decision to not use any usa product or service as much as i can help it, prompted my decision to change.

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                      • msdropbear42@blahaj.zoneM msdropbear42@blahaj.zone

                        @miked@social.tchncs.de

                        1. merkan = american, ie
                        usa 🤢🤮🤬🖕. #fucktrump

                        2. in multiple fediverse posts, over recent weeks, there were many links & references to some official fedora blog articles where some senior person there was explaining their new policy on ai. various popular tech sites then also began reporting on it. some links a quick search dug up now fyi:
                        https://itsfoss.com/news/fedora-ai-developer-desktop-stalled/
                        https://byteiota.com/fedoras-ai-developer-desktop-was-approved-then-blocked-heres-why/
                        https://app.daily.dev/posts/heavy-community-backlash-blocks-fedora-s-ai-developer-desktop-initiative-bvh8ybqfj
                        https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/policy/ai-contribution-policy/
                        https://linuxiac.com/fedora-opens-the-door-to-ai-tools/
                        https://ostechnix.com/fedora-ai-contribution-policy/
                        whilst afaict the current status is in flux, the fact they have not unambiguously banned it, makes me apprehensive about them eventually accepting it. this uncertainty, combined with my moral decision to not use any usa product or service as much as i can help it, prompted my decision to change.

                        miked@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @MsDropbear42 Thank you, much appreciated! ❤

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                        • miked@social.tchncs.deM miked@social.tchncs.de

                          Should I switch from #Fedora to #Archlinux? Been thinking about it for a while now 🤔

                          zstg@fedia.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @miked DO IT

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                          • mikael@hachyderm.ioM mikael@hachyderm.io

                            @miked My opinion is that Fedora is a good OS if you mainly want a stable platform for getting things done, while Arch may be a better choice if you’re interested in tinkering with your OS for the sake of tinkering. Both are good operating systems, and the Arch wiki is legendary even among people not running Arch, but in my experience Fedora just keeps working year after year while Arch can’t be trusted to not break occasionally, and reading change logs for your installed packages - at the very least after the fact - is more or less necessary to keep downtime to a minimum.

                            adhisimon@mastodon.kodesumber.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mikael I agree with you as a fedora user who depends on arch's wiki. Both distros are based on systemd, so most on Arch's wiki are relevant for fedora too.

                            @miked

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