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  4. Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    Each time a new privacy-invasive
    feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

    If each time a new privacy-invasive
    feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

    Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

    It is an act of self-protection but,
    perhaps even more importantly,
    it is also an act of protest.

    A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

    The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

    If we do not refuse,
    if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
    we will lose them all.

    #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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    gerardthornley@hachyderm.io
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    #3

    @Em0nM4stodon I agree with you on the risk, but try telling an 'ordinary' person that and they'll think of you as conspiracy nut. I'm glad to see the message is starting to get through very slowly, but I doubt it's going to stop the current wave of ID 'verification'.
    And it's not like there isn't a real risk to children in forums full of strangers. Until there's a social change with regards to that risk, I can't see there being any change of direction with regards to the other.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      Each time a new privacy-invasive
      feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

      If each time a new privacy-invasive
      feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

      Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

      It is an act of self-protection but,
      perhaps even more importantly,
      it is also an act of protest.

      A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

      The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

      If we do not refuse,
      if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
      we will lose them all.

      #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

      datterich@darmstadt.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      datterich@darmstadt.social
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      @Em0nM4stodon

      > "It is an act of self-protection but,
      perhaps even more importantly,
      it is also an act of protest."

      It is also our democratic duty to protect those who can't fight for themselves, who are in a minority and as such in an inferior position to defend themselves against attacks aiming at their human rights or personal privacy.

      It's a duty of the majority to protect minorities - because, in a democracy, majorities change...

      @catsalad

      nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE 2 Replies Last reply
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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        Each time a new privacy-invasive
        feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

        If each time a new privacy-invasive
        feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

        Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

        It is an act of self-protection but,
        perhaps even more importantly,
        it is also an act of protest.

        A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

        The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

        If we do not refuse,
        if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
        we will lose them all.

        #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

        bill_halcyon1@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        bill_halcyon1@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        bill_halcyon1@mastodon.social
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        #5

        @Em0nM4stodon

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          Each time a new privacy-invasive
          feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

          If each time a new privacy-invasive
          feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

          Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

          It is an act of self-protection but,
          perhaps even more importantly,
          it is also an act of protest.

          A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

          The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

          If we do not refuse,
          if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
          we will lose them all.

          #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

          bowreality@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          bowreality@mastodon.social
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          #6

          @Em0nM4stodon Too many people live by “I don’t lose sleep over things like that” and FOMO

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            Each time a new privacy-invasive
            feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

            If each time a new privacy-invasive
            feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

            Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

            It is an act of self-protection but,
            perhaps even more importantly,
            it is also an act of protest.

            A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

            The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

            If we do not refuse,
            if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
            we will lose them all.

            #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

            amgine@mamot.frA This user is from outside of this forum
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            amgine@mamot.fr
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            #7

            @Em0nM4stodon

            Thus my refusal to ever use facial id on my mobile.

            8 months since the latest iteration, it is still highlighting 'Finish Setting Up Your iPhone'. It sure must be valuable for them.

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            • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

              @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

              I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

              ratel@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              ratel@mastodon.social
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              #8

              @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I'm afraid the one and only realistic alternative is to stop looking for alternatives. In other words, instead of trying to do what they already do but in a different way and with different tools, one should first question whether their "needs" are actual needs or simply preferences they're reluctant to leave behind.

              nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN knowprose@mastodon.socialK 2 Replies Last reply
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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                Each time a new privacy-invasive
                feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                If each time a new privacy-invasive
                feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                It is an act of self-protection but,
                perhaps even more importantly,
                it is also an act of protest.

                A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                If we do not refuse,
                if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                we will lose them all.

                #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

                ehay2k@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                ehay2k@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                ehay2k@mastodon.social
                wrote last edited by
                #9

                @Em0nM4stodon

                💯!!!

                I recently tried to check in for an international flight online. It asked for a picture of my passport, with a disclaimer [paraphrasing] that my passport info would be sent to a third party for processing.

                That's a hard pass for me. I'd rather wait in line at the airport then have some third party I don't know about have access to my passport info

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                • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

                  @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

                  I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

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                  arem@mstdn.ca
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                  #10

                  @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Allegedly, using Gary's Mod subverts the age control, but I'm uncertain if it causes the company owner to think it's accepted as opposed to broken.

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    Each time a new privacy-invasive
                    feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                    If each time a new privacy-invasive
                    feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                    Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                    It is an act of self-protection but,
                    perhaps even more importantly,
                    it is also an act of protest.

                    A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                    The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                    If we do not refuse,
                    if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                    we will lose them all.

                    #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

                    retech@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                    retech@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                    retech@defcon.social
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                    #11

                    @Em0nM4stodon

                    If we do not refuse,
                    if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                    we are saying yes to the power structures and
                    we will lose all our rights.

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                    • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

                      @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

                      I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

                      nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      nuwagaba2@mastodon.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #12

                      @nakdim
                      If your protested alone or with a small group of people, would any impact be made ?

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                      • ratel@mastodon.socialR ratel@mastodon.social

                        @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I'm afraid the one and only realistic alternative is to stop looking for alternatives. In other words, instead of trying to do what they already do but in a different way and with different tools, one should first question whether their "needs" are actual needs or simply preferences they're reluctant to leave behind.

                        nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        nuwagaba2@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #13

                        @ratel
                        If you fight, you may lose but if you don't fight, you totally and completely lose. If we can't look for alternatives, can we create our own alternatives?

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                        • retech@defcon.socialR retech@defcon.social

                          @Em0nM4stodon

                          If we do not refuse,
                          if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                          we are saying yes to the power structures and
                          we will lose all our rights.

                          nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          nuwagaba2@mastodon.social
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                          #14

                          @retech
                          We can't wait until it's to late to discover that we hsve already lost our rights. This seems like something that has been planned for years to change the world into what it's becoming now. What's the best way of fighting for our privacy rights?

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                          • bowreality@mastodon.socialB bowreality@mastodon.social

                            @Em0nM4stodon Too many people live by “I don’t lose sleep over things like that” and FOMO

                            nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            nuwagaba2@mastodon.social
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                            #15

                            @Bowreality
                            What do you think can open their eyes to see tge danger awaiting them?

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                            • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                              @ratel
                              If you fight, you may lose but if you don't fight, you totally and completely lose. If we can't look for alternatives, can we create our own alternatives?

                              ratel@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              ratel@mastodon.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #16

                              @nuwagaba2 I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I see nothing wrong with creating alternatives. What I'm saying is we'll have to be a little more ambitious than merely struggling to replace services that are already a problem in itself.

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                              • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                @retech
                                We can't wait until it's to late to discover that we hsve already lost our rights. This seems like something that has been planned for years to change the world into what it's becoming now. What's the best way of fighting for our privacy rights?

                                retech@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                retech@defcon.social
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                                #17

                                @nuwagaba2 Never give a corporation your real information. Use a cellphone (if you must) with grapheneOS. Doublehop vpn for everything. Rotate your mac address. Use a single use email for every account you have, and make up a name for every account that's not gov't required to have your real name. Never use your address whenever possible. No subscription services. No images or real names online, ever. 30+ char unique password for everything. No voicemail.

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                                • ratel@mastodon.socialR ratel@mastodon.social

                                  @nuwagaba2 I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I see nothing wrong with creating alternatives. What I'm saying is we'll have to be a little more ambitious than merely struggling to replace services that are already a problem in itself.

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                                  nuwagaba2@mastodon.social
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                                  #18

                                  @ratel
                                  That's right. How can we change the mindset of others?

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                                  • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                    @Bowreality
                                    What do you think can open their eyes to see tge danger awaiting them?

                                    bowreality@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    bowreality@mastodon.social
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                                    #19

                                    @nuwagaba2 In my experience nothing. Head in the sand is more convenient.

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                                    • retech@defcon.socialR retech@defcon.social

                                      @nuwagaba2 Never give a corporation your real information. Use a cellphone (if you must) with grapheneOS. Doublehop vpn for everything. Rotate your mac address. Use a single use email for every account you have, and make up a name for every account that's not gov't required to have your real name. Never use your address whenever possible. No subscription services. No images or real names online, ever. 30+ char unique password for everything. No voicemail.

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                                      nuwagaba2@mastodon.social
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                                      #20

                                      @retech
                                      Thanks so much for sharing such a valuable information. It will save a lot of people's privacy if their willing. Unfortunately, I use my real names in many accounts I create but luckily, that's the only real information I have ever given to corporations. Am I still safe there?

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                                      • bowreality@mastodon.socialB bowreality@mastodon.social

                                        @nuwagaba2 In my experience nothing. Head in the sand is more convenient.

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                                        #21

                                        @Bowreality
                                        That's so terrible. We can try our best by informing those who are willing to be informed and save those who are willing to be saved . What do you say about that?

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                                        • datterich@darmstadt.socialD datterich@darmstadt.social

                                          @Em0nM4stodon

                                          > "It is an act of self-protection but,
                                          perhaps even more importantly,
                                          it is also an act of protest."

                                          It is also our democratic duty to protect those who can't fight for themselves, who are in a minority and as such in an inferior position to defend themselves against attacks aiming at their human rights or personal privacy.

                                          It's a duty of the majority to protect minorities - because, in a democracy, majorities change...

                                          @catsalad

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                                          #22

                                          @Datterich
                                          I really like your point of protecting those who can't protect themselves. But we need to first, are those people ready and willing to be protected?

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