Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.
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@Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord...
What are the alternatives? 
I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!
@nakdim
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@nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I'm afraid the one and only realistic alternative is to stop looking for alternatives. In other words, instead of trying to do what they already do but in a different way and with different tools, one should first question whether their "needs" are actual needs or simply preferences they're reluctant to leave behind.
@ratel
If you fight, you may lose but if you don't fight, you totally and completely lose. If we can't look for alternatives, can we create our own alternatives? -
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we are saying yes to the power structures and
we will lose all our rights.@retech
We can't wait until it's to late to discover that we hsve already lost our rights. This seems like something that has been planned for years to change the world into what it's becoming now. What's the best way of fighting for our privacy rights? -
@Em0nM4stodon Too many people live by “I don’t lose sleep over things like that” and FOMO
@Bowreality
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@ratel
If you fight, you may lose but if you don't fight, you totally and completely lose. If we can't look for alternatives, can we create our own alternatives?@nuwagaba2 I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I see nothing wrong with creating alternatives. What I'm saying is we'll have to be a little more ambitious than merely struggling to replace services that are already a problem in itself.
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@retech
We can't wait until it's to late to discover that we hsve already lost our rights. This seems like something that has been planned for years to change the world into what it's becoming now. What's the best way of fighting for our privacy rights?@nuwagaba2 Never give a corporation your real information. Use a cellphone (if you must) with grapheneOS. Doublehop vpn for everything. Rotate your mac address. Use a single use email for every account you have, and make up a name for every account that's not gov't required to have your real name. Never use your address whenever possible. No subscription services. No images or real names online, ever. 30+ char unique password for everything. No voicemail.
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@nuwagaba2 I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I see nothing wrong with creating alternatives. What I'm saying is we'll have to be a little more ambitious than merely struggling to replace services that are already a problem in itself.
@ratel
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@Bowreality
What do you think can open their eyes to see tge danger awaiting them?@nuwagaba2 In my experience nothing. Head in the sand is more convenient.
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@nuwagaba2 Never give a corporation your real information. Use a cellphone (if you must) with grapheneOS. Doublehop vpn for everything. Rotate your mac address. Use a single use email for every account you have, and make up a name for every account that's not gov't required to have your real name. Never use your address whenever possible. No subscription services. No images or real names online, ever. 30+ char unique password for everything. No voicemail.
@retech
Thanks so much for sharing such a valuable information. It will save a lot of people's privacy if their willing. Unfortunately, I use my real names in many accounts I create but luckily, that's the only real information I have ever given to corporations. Am I still safe there? -
@nuwagaba2 In my experience nothing. Head in the sand is more convenient.
@Bowreality
That's so terrible. We can try our best by informing those who are willing to be informed and save those who are willing to be saved . What do you say about that? -
> "It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest."It is also our democratic duty to protect those who can't fight for themselves, who are in a minority and as such in an inferior position to defend themselves against attacks aiming at their human rights or personal privacy.
It's a duty of the majority to protect minorities - because, in a democracy, majorities change...
@Datterich
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@nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I'm afraid the one and only realistic alternative is to stop looking for alternatives. In other words, instead of trying to do what they already do but in a different way and with different tools, one should first question whether their "needs" are actual needs or simply preferences they're reluctant to leave behind.
@ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon so much this.
Evolve.
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@ratel
That's right. How can we change the mindset of others?@nuwagaba2 Honestly I don't know. I already have a hard time trying to educate my kids on these topics and explaining my family why this is important. Did smartphones really improve our lives ? Haven't social media (in other words: having a profile and letting everyone knows who you're talking to) taken away from us some sense of anonymity and fun ? Do we really need to listen to music online ? An email, an old phone , a computer, a web browser – that should do the job.
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@retech
Thanks so much for sharing such a valuable information. It will save a lot of people's privacy if their willing. Unfortunately, I use my real names in many accounts I create but luckily, that's the only real information I have ever given to corporations. Am I still safe there?@nuwagaba2 @retech might be wotlrth changing the names on the accounts before deleting them.
Longer names than your own so it overwrites the database.
Just to be safer.
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@nuwagaba2 Honestly I don't know. I already have a hard time trying to educate my kids on these topics and explaining my family why this is important. Did smartphones really improve our lives ? Haven't social media (in other words: having a profile and letting everyone knows who you're talking to) taken away from us some sense of anonymity and fun ? Do we really need to listen to music online ? An email, an old phone , a computer, a web browser – that should do the job.
@ratel
We're already in their trap and hence we need ro find our way out. The challenge is not only on your kids but also on over 80% of the people whi have strong confidence and pride in smartphones for changing their lives . It would have been easy to liberate the people if they knew about the trap they drove themselves in. Have you ever thought of how to protect your children from that? -
@ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon so much this.
Evolve.
@knowprose @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Yup. We basically need what already existed in the late 90s, and we can now use it even more cautiously. We don't even need new fancy devices. We don't need all this social, community bullshit, we don't need new concepts either. We don't need TEDx or NYT best-sellers. Fuck Meta X Microshit and all but also fuck all these assholes that are always looking for some not-so-new idea to print their name onto in order to sell it.
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@nuwagaba2 @retech might be wotlrth changing the names on the accounts before deleting them.
Longer names than your own so it overwrites the database.
Just to be safer.
@knowprose
Am a bit safer but still i have to do like you've said to open be completely safe.Do you take time to inform other people about this kind of danger where people are slowly losing their privacy rights? -
@knowprose @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Yup. We basically need what already existed in the late 90s, and we can now use it even more cautiously. We don't even need new fancy devices. We don't need all this social, community bullshit, we don't need new concepts either. We don't need TEDx or NYT best-sellers. Fuck Meta X Microshit and all but also fuck all these assholes that are always looking for some not-so-new idea to print their name onto in order to sell it.
@ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I wish you wouldn't beat around the bush so much...
I pretty much agree with you, though maybe not as severely.
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@knowprose
Am a bit safer but still i have to do like you've said to open be completely safe.Do you take time to inform other people about this kind of danger where people are slowly losing their privacy rights?@nuwagaba2 generally, if I see something I post it or boost it.
If you follow the hashtags #privacy and #infosec you'll be up to date.
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@nuwagaba2 generally, if I see something I post it or boost it.
If you follow the hashtags #privacy and #infosec you'll be up to date.
@knowprose
Thanks so much . I'll do my best. Would you mind sharing with you about my project?
