Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.
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> "It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest."It is also our democratic duty to protect those who can't fight for themselves, who are in a minority and as such in an inferior position to defend themselves against attacks aiming at their human rights or personal privacy.
It's a duty of the majority to protect minorities - because, in a democracy, majorities change...
@Datterich
I really like your point of protecting those who can't protect themselves. But we need to first, are those people ready and willing to be protected? -
@nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I'm afraid the one and only realistic alternative is to stop looking for alternatives. In other words, instead of trying to do what they already do but in a different way and with different tools, one should first question whether their "needs" are actual needs or simply preferences they're reluctant to leave behind.
@ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon so much this.
Evolve.
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@ratel
That's right. How can we change the mindset of others?@nuwagaba2 Honestly I don't know. I already have a hard time trying to educate my kids on these topics and explaining my family why this is important. Did smartphones really improve our lives ? Haven't social media (in other words: having a profile and letting everyone knows who you're talking to) taken away from us some sense of anonymity and fun ? Do we really need to listen to music online ? An email, an old phone , a computer, a web browser – that should do the job.
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@retech
Thanks so much for sharing such a valuable information. It will save a lot of people's privacy if their willing. Unfortunately, I use my real names in many accounts I create but luckily, that's the only real information I have ever given to corporations. Am I still safe there?@nuwagaba2 @retech might be wotlrth changing the names on the accounts before deleting them.
Longer names than your own so it overwrites the database.
Just to be safer.
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@nuwagaba2 Honestly I don't know. I already have a hard time trying to educate my kids on these topics and explaining my family why this is important. Did smartphones really improve our lives ? Haven't social media (in other words: having a profile and letting everyone knows who you're talking to) taken away from us some sense of anonymity and fun ? Do we really need to listen to music online ? An email, an old phone , a computer, a web browser – that should do the job.
@ratel
We're already in their trap and hence we need ro find our way out. The challenge is not only on your kids but also on over 80% of the people whi have strong confidence and pride in smartphones for changing their lives . It would have been easy to liberate the people if they knew about the trap they drove themselves in. Have you ever thought of how to protect your children from that? -
@ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon so much this.
Evolve.
@knowprose @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Yup. We basically need what already existed in the late 90s, and we can now use it even more cautiously. We don't even need new fancy devices. We don't need all this social, community bullshit, we don't need new concepts either. We don't need TEDx or NYT best-sellers. Fuck Meta X Microshit and all but also fuck all these assholes that are always looking for some not-so-new idea to print their name onto in order to sell it.
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@nuwagaba2 @retech might be wotlrth changing the names on the accounts before deleting them.
Longer names than your own so it overwrites the database.
Just to be safer.
@knowprose
Am a bit safer but still i have to do like you've said to open be completely safe.Do you take time to inform other people about this kind of danger where people are slowly losing their privacy rights? -
@knowprose @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Yup. We basically need what already existed in the late 90s, and we can now use it even more cautiously. We don't even need new fancy devices. We don't need all this social, community bullshit, we don't need new concepts either. We don't need TEDx or NYT best-sellers. Fuck Meta X Microshit and all but also fuck all these assholes that are always looking for some not-so-new idea to print their name onto in order to sell it.
@ratel @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I wish you wouldn't beat around the bush so much...
I pretty much agree with you, though maybe not as severely.
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@knowprose
Am a bit safer but still i have to do like you've said to open be completely safe.Do you take time to inform other people about this kind of danger where people are slowly losing their privacy rights?@nuwagaba2 generally, if I see something I post it or boost it.
If you follow the hashtags #privacy and #infosec you'll be up to date.
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@nuwagaba2 generally, if I see something I post it or boost it.
If you follow the hashtags #privacy and #infosec you'll be up to date.
@knowprose
Thanks so much . I'll do my best. Would you mind sharing with you about my project? -
@ratel
We're already in their trap and hence we need ro find our way out. The challenge is not only on your kids but also on over 80% of the people whi have strong confidence and pride in smartphones for changing their lives . It would have been easy to liberate the people if they knew about the trap they drove themselves in. Have you ever thought of how to protect your children from that?@nuwagaba2 Yup. Linux was step one. Step two is about politics: I explain and show to them how it works, why this and that app can't ne trusted, and how they can actually use their computer and internet instead of being used by the compagnies behind them. Tough work, not always fruitful, but never vain.
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@knowprose
Thanks so much . I'll do my best. Would you mind sharing with you about my project?@nuwagaba2 sure.
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@knowprose
It's about fighting hunger in my community, I work with 12 young volunteer farmers to make this a reality by growing food for the needy, educating local farmers with advanced agricultural skills to help them improve on their production as well as equipping beginner farmers with required tools like seeds , fertilisers and organic pestcides to help them produce the best out of their gardens as well combat climate change through tree planting. Do you have such initiatives there? -
@nuwagaba2 Yup. Linux was step one. Step two is about politics: I explain and show to them how it works, why this and that app can't ne trusted, and how they can actually use their computer and internet instead of being used by the compagnies behind them. Tough work, not always fruitful, but never vain.
@ratel
I know one day, they'll appreciate the great work that you're did for them. Let's hope that it won't be too late for them to make a change. If I get my own kids, I'll teach them the same things. One thing I can't leave behind is teach them how to grow their own food. Do you have any ideas about that? -
@Bowreality
That's so terrible. We can try our best by informing those who are willing to be informed and save those who are willing to be saved . What do you say about that?@nuwagaba2 I always do.
An example: when I heard about the 23andme breach and I knew one of my co-workers had just done it. I told her. And even mentioned the class action lawsuit just in case she is interested. She just shrugged and said she doesn’t “doesn’t lose sleep over it. What would they do with my DNA anyways”.
I guess they are all old enough. I do my part to say when/why I don’t do stuff and I alert people if I know of breaches. Otherwise they are on their own. -
@nuwagaba2 I always do.
An example: when I heard about the 23andme breach and I knew one of my co-workers had just done it. I told her. And even mentioned the class action lawsuit just in case she is interested. She just shrugged and said she doesn’t “doesn’t lose sleep over it. What would they do with my DNA anyways”.
I guess they are all old enough. I do my part to say when/why I don’t do stuff and I alert people if I know of breaches. Otherwise they are on their own.@Bowreality
The work you're doing if alerting people is really great. Many have no chance of getting alerted . Good enough you have done your honest part and now their decisions will determine the consequences of their lives. Did you alert you children also? -
Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
@Em0nM4stodon Agreed.
Don't give up your biometrics.
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@Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord...
What are the alternatives? 
I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!
@nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Don't use it.
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@Bowreality
The work you're doing if alerting people is really great. Many have no chance of getting alerted . Good enough you have done your honest part and now their decisions will determine the consequences of their lives. Did you alert you children also?@nuwagaba2 I don’t deal much with kids
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Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
What I see is if you don't adopt their tech voluntarily, they will make sure you can't avoid it.
