Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
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@nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.
@afreytes Guess I didnt understand the question, sorry.
Maybe TLAs and FLAs? English is FULL of them.
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
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not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
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@afreytes
Nothing similar in Afrikaansall the English four-letter naughty words translate into different length words, and I can't think of any kind of clustering that would tie a large number of naughty words together
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
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Don't know of any similar arbitrary grouping in French or Arabic.
Similarly I wonder what other languages do about "teenagers", do they just say "adolescents" or do they also have an arbitrary group of ages based on prefixes or suffixes?
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
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@afreytes Norwegian: No arbitrary description like "Four Letter Word". There are descriptive words for the group, that would be like "cuss-words" "power-expressions" "unpolished language".
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
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@afreytes No, we do not have n-letter words for expletives or something else in German
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@davep please expand
@afreytes Its just a grouping for tender words. Brain won't work at the moment 🤪
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
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Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?
And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.
Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".
Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc
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not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
(no answer? please boost)
@afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?
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Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?
And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.
Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".
Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc
@afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way
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@afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?
@Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!
Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!
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@afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way
@jmopp Yes, yes it would. But I want to know about languages other than English.
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@Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!
Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!
@afreytes @Sharonybaloney there is the same in french, called verlan.
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@Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!
Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!
@afreytes I hope so too, or I’ll feel a bit foolish. But I also liked your question and could think of other arbitrary word groupings in English (eggcorns, nicknames (dick for richard?! Polly for Mary?!?! Definitely a particular Thing)) and wanted to follow to see what comes up. I feel your frustration trying to get past the dirty word association and into the arbitrariness and letter association of the groupings.
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@afreytes @Sharonybaloney there is the same in french, called verlan.
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@afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?
@Sharonybaloney @afreytes Yes it is one of the theories about the origin of the word, it said be started either among "jailbirds" in Stockholm in early 19th centurey (improbable) or more probable as a "leak" from a secret language amongst worker in a certain cultural region (they made many words by switch start and end) and propagated by pedlars around the country and becoming popular.
The start word was kaffi, that was a dialect word for kaffe (coffee). -
@Sharonybaloney @afreytes Yes it is one of the theories about the origin of the word, it said be started either among "jailbirds" in Stockholm in early 19th centurey (improbable) or more probable as a "leak" from a secret language amongst worker in a certain cultural region (they made many words by switch start and end) and propagated by pedlars around the country and becoming popular.
The start word was kaffi, that was a dialect word for kaffe (coffee).@GoblinQuester @Sharonybaloney when you say "jailbirds" in quotes, what do you mean? Not arguing, just curious.
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@GoblinQuester @Sharonybaloney when you say "jailbirds" in quotes, what do you mean? Not arguing, just curious.
@afreytes @Sharonybaloney Criminals that was going in and out of a local jail in Stockholm. Small times career criminals that frequented that institution often.
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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:
In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.
In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?
Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.
(no answer? please boost)
@afreytes
in japanese you can use the word crap in a very disrespectful way, but you can also use the same word with your teacher. It's all about context.semi-related, but I've noticed that English swears follow similar sounds. they usually have either deep 'uh' sounds, sharp 'ih' sounds, or some kind of 'aa' sound.
