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  3. Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

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  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

    In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

    In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

    Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

    #AskFedi

    (no answer? please boost)

    lukyan@lukyan.euL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @afreytes I'm not aware of any in Polish: I think more of groups of objects than words. But we have "cztery litery" ("four letters") as one of the euphemisms for buttocks, referencing two such four letter words.

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    • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

      @afreytes I would assume most language have the concept of swearwords/curse words etc, but I assume that's not what you're asking about?

      afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @oblomov Indeed, that's not what I'm asking.

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      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

        In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

        In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

        Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

        #AskFedi

        (no answer? please boost)

        davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @afreytes Des mots doux?

        afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA davep@infosec.exchangeD 2 Replies Last reply
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        • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

          @afreytes Des mots doux?

          afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
          afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @davep please expand

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          • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @afreytes I dunno how you'd group them, but plenty of terms have become emotionally loaded.

            Retarded/Retard
            Transvestite
            Transexual/Tranny
            Handicaped

            Just a few that came to mind.

            afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.

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            • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
              afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @nuintari NP, have an excellent weekend!

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              • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.

                nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @afreytes Guess I didnt understand the question, sorry.

                Maybe TLAs and FLAs? English is FULL of them.

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                • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                  In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                  In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                  Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                  #AskFedi

                  (no answer? please boost)

                  blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #11

                  not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.

                  @afreytes

                  josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ adriano@lile.clA 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                    In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                    In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                    Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                    #AskFedi

                    (no answer? please boost)

                    screwturn@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    screwturn@mastodon.social
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                    #12

                    @afreytes
                    Nothing similar in Afrikaans

                    all the English four-letter naughty words translate into different length words, and I can't think of any kind of clustering that would tie a large number of naughty words together

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                    • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                      In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                      In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                      Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                      #AskFedi

                      (no answer? please boost)

                      gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @afreytes

                      Don't know of any similar arbitrary grouping in French or Arabic.

                      Similarly I wonder what other languages do about "teenagers", do they just say "adolescents" or do they also have an arbitrary group of ages based on prefixes or suffixes?

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                      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                        In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                        In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                        Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                        #AskFedi

                        (no answer? please boost)

                        hakona@im.alstadheim.noH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @afreytes Norwegian: No arbitrary description like "Four Letter Word". There are descriptive words for the group, that would be like "cuss-words" "power-expressions" "unpolished language".

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                        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                          In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                          In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                          Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                          #AskFedi

                          (no answer? please boost)

                          greenskyoverme@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @afreytes No, we do not have n-letter words for expletives or something else in German

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                          • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @davep please expand

                            davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @afreytes Its just a grouping for tender words. Brain won't work at the moment 🤪

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                            • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                              In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                              In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                              Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                              #AskFedi

                              (no answer? please boost)

                              afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                              afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                              afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                              #17

                              Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?

                              And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.

                              Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".

                              Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc

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                              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.

                                @afreytes

                                josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @blogdiva @afreytes eso pensaba yo ahora mismo, no encuentro ninguna aproximación lingüística a lo que Afreytes pregunta.

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                                • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                                  In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                                  In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                                  Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                                  #AskFedi

                                  (no answer? please boost)

                                  sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?

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                                  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?

                                    And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.

                                    Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".

                                    Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc

                                    jmopp@masto.aiJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way

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                                    • sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS sharonybaloney@alaskan.social

                                      @afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?

                                      afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!

                                      Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!

                                      mxfraud@tabletop.socialM sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS 2 Replies Last reply
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                                      • jmopp@masto.aiJ jmopp@masto.ai

                                        @afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way

                                        afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @jmopp Yes, yes it would. But I want to know about languages other than English.

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                                        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!

                                          Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!

                                          mxfraud@tabletop.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @afreytes @Sharonybaloney there is the same in french, called verlan.

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