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  3. Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

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  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

    In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

    In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

    Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

    #AskFedi

    (no answer? please boost)

    davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @afreytes Des mots doux?

    afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA davep@infosec.exchangeD 2 Replies Last reply
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    • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

      @afreytes Des mots doux?

      afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @davep please expand

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      • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @afreytes I dunno how you'd group them, but plenty of terms have become emotionally loaded.

        Retarded/Retard
        Transvestite
        Transexual/Tranny
        Handicaped

        Just a few that came to mind.

        afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.

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        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @nuintari NP, have an excellent weekend!

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          • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.

            nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @afreytes Guess I didnt understand the question, sorry.

            Maybe TLAs and FLAs? English is FULL of them.

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            • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

              In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

              In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

              Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

              #AskFedi

              (no answer? please boost)

              blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.

              @afreytes

              josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ adriano@lile.clA 2 Replies Last reply
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              • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                #AskFedi

                (no answer? please boost)

                screwturn@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @afreytes
                Nothing similar in Afrikaans

                all the English four-letter naughty words translate into different length words, and I can't think of any kind of clustering that would tie a large number of naughty words together

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                • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                  In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                  In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                  Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                  #AskFedi

                  (no answer? please boost)

                  gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @afreytes

                  Don't know of any similar arbitrary grouping in French or Arabic.

                  Similarly I wonder what other languages do about "teenagers", do they just say "adolescents" or do they also have an arbitrary group of ages based on prefixes or suffixes?

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                  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                    In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                    In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                    Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                    #AskFedi

                    (no answer? please boost)

                    hakona@im.alstadheim.noH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @afreytes Norwegian: No arbitrary description like "Four Letter Word". There are descriptive words for the group, that would be like "cuss-words" "power-expressions" "unpolished language".

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                    • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                      In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                      In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                      Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                      #AskFedi

                      (no answer? please boost)

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                      #15

                      @afreytes No, we do not have n-letter words for expletives or something else in German

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                      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @davep please expand

                        davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @afreytes Its just a grouping for tender words. Brain won't work at the moment 🤪

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                        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                          In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                          In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                          Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                          #AskFedi

                          (no answer? please boost)

                          afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?

                          And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.

                          Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".

                          Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.

                            @afreytes

                            josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @blogdiva @afreytes eso pensaba yo ahora mismo, no encuentro ninguna aproximación lingüística a lo que Afreytes pregunta.

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                            • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                              In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                              In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                              Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                              #AskFedi

                              (no answer? please boost)

                              sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?

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                              • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?

                                And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.

                                Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".

                                Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc

                                jmopp@masto.aiJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way

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                                • sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS sharonybaloney@alaskan.social

                                  @afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?

                                  afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!

                                  Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!

                                  mxfraud@tabletop.socialM sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS 2 Replies Last reply
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                                  • jmopp@masto.aiJ jmopp@masto.ai

                                    @afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way

                                    afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jmopp Yes, yes it would. But I want to know about languages other than English.

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                                    • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!

                                      Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!

                                      mxfraud@tabletop.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @afreytes @Sharonybaloney there is the same in french, called verlan.

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                                      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @Sharonybaloney oh I love this!!!

                                        Know I want to know if this is a thing!! I want it to be a thing!

                                        sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @afreytes I hope so too, or I’ll feel a bit foolish. But I also liked your question and could think of other arbitrary word groupings in English (eggcorns, nicknames (dick for richard?! Polly for Mary?!?! Definitely a particular Thing)) and wanted to follow to see what comes up. I feel your frustration trying to get past the dirty word association and into the arbitrariness and letter association of the groupings.

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                                        • mxfraud@tabletop.socialM mxfraud@tabletop.social

                                          @afreytes @Sharonybaloney there is the same in french, called verlan.

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                                          Verlan - Wikipedia

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                                          (en.wikipedia.org)

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                                          @mxfraud @afreytes Oh, yes, this is the kind of thing I meant!

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