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Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

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  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
    afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

    In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

    In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

    Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

    #AskFedi

    (no answer? please boost)

    nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN oblomov@sociale.networkO lukyan@lukyan.euL davep@infosec.exchangeD blogdiva@mastodon.socialB 21 Replies Last reply
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    • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

      Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

      In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

      In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

      Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

      #AskFedi

      (no answer? please boost)

      nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
      nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
      nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      @afreytes I dunno how you'd group them, but plenty of terms have become emotionally loaded.

      Retarded/Retard
      Transvestite
      Transexual/Tranny
      Handicaped

      Just a few that came to mind.

      afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA 1 Reply Last reply
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      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

        In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

        In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

        Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

        #AskFedi

        (no answer? please boost)

        oblomov@sociale.networkO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @afreytes I would assume most language have the concept of swearwords/curse words etc, but I assume that's not what you're asking about?

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        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

          Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

          In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

          In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

          Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

          #AskFedi

          (no answer? please boost)

          lukyan@lukyan.euL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @afreytes I'm not aware of any in Polish: I think more of groups of objects than words. But we have "cztery litery" ("four letters") as one of the euphemisms for buttocks, referencing two such four letter words.

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          • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

            @afreytes I would assume most language have the concept of swearwords/curse words etc, but I assume that's not what you're asking about?

            afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
            afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @oblomov Indeed, that's not what I'm asking.

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            • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

              In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

              In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

              Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

              #AskFedi

              (no answer? please boost)

              davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
              davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @afreytes Des mots doux?

              afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA davep@infosec.exchangeD 2 Replies Last reply
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              • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                @afreytes Des mots doux?

                afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @davep please expand

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                • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @afreytes I dunno how you'd group them, but plenty of terms have become emotionally loaded.

                  Retarded/Retard
                  Transvestite
                  Transexual/Tranny
                  Handicaped

                  Just a few that came to mind.

                  afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                  afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                  afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                  #8

                  @nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.

                  nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN 1 Reply Last reply
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                  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                    afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @nuintari NP, have an excellent weekend!

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                    • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @nuintari Not really what I'm looking for, but thanks.

                      nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @afreytes Guess I didnt understand the question, sorry.

                      Maybe TLAs and FLAs? English is FULL of them.

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                      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                        In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                        In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                        Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                        #AskFedi

                        (no answer? please boost)

                        blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.

                        @afreytes

                        josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ adriano@lile.clA 2 Replies Last reply
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                        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                          In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                          In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                          Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                          #AskFedi

                          (no answer? please boost)

                          screwturn@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @afreytes
                          Nothing similar in Afrikaans

                          all the English four-letter naughty words translate into different length words, and I can't think of any kind of clustering that would tie a large number of naughty words together

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                          • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                            In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                            In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                            Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                            #AskFedi

                            (no answer? please boost)

                            gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @afreytes

                            Don't know of any similar arbitrary grouping in French or Arabic.

                            Similarly I wonder what other languages do about "teenagers", do they just say "adolescents" or do they also have an arbitrary group of ages based on prefixes or suffixes?

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                            • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                              In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                              In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                              Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                              #AskFedi

                              (no answer? please boost)

                              hakona@im.alstadheim.noH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @afreytes Norwegian: No arbitrary description like "Four Letter Word". There are descriptive words for the group, that would be like "cuss-words" "power-expressions" "unpolished language".

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                              • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                                In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                                In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                                Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                                #AskFedi

                                (no answer? please boost)

                                greenskyoverme@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @afreytes No, we do not have n-letter words for expletives or something else in German

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                                • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @davep please expand

                                  davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @afreytes Its just a grouping for tender words. Brain won't work at the moment 🤪

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                                  • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                                    In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                                    In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                                    Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                                    #AskFedi

                                    (no answer? please boost)

                                    afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?

                                    And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.

                                    Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".

                                    Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc

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                                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                      not en español. it’s one of those anglicismos i have yet to find a proper way to translate.

                                      @afreytes

                                      josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @blogdiva @afreytes eso pensaba yo ahora mismo, no encuentro ninguna aproximación lingüística a lo que Afreytes pregunta.

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                                      • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        Semi serious question, (please do not ask "AI") I can do web searches just fine so please answer from your own experience:

                                        In English, you have "four letter words", these words have four letters but are perhaps not to be used in polite communication.

                                        In OTHER languages: Are there any other "group of words constrained by arbitrary rules"?

                                        Does NOT have to be an offensive group of words, but more like a grouping outside the traditional language syntax.

                                        #AskFedi

                                        (no answer? please boost)

                                        sharonybaloney@alaskan.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @afreytes When I visited Sweden, the term fika (coffeebreak) was explained to me as a common linguistic flipperoo (co-fee became fee-ca) kinda like cockney rhyming slang standing in for the real words. But I’m not a Swedish speaker, and I wasn’t given any other examples. Can a Swedish speaker weigh in? Is there a name for this type of wordplay/category of words? Or was I misled and fika is a standalone?

                                        afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA goblinquester@dice.campG 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.placeA afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          Some replies seem to answer the question as: What are "four letter words" called in your language?

                                          And that is NOT necessarily what I am asking.

                                          Imagine, that in your language, the informal names for mammals all had 6 letters and always ended in "mu". Dog is a dogymu and cat is katymu. And in your language they colloquially call this "The Mu Group".

                                          Doesn't have to be a letter limit either, could be any arbitrary thing that isn't just "all the verbs", "all the adjectives", etc

                                          jmopp@masto.aiJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @afreytes Would "the wh- words" count as this in English? It doesn't include all the interrogative adverbs, but it includes enough of them to demarcate the group in an informal way

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