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Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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  • kingmoth@mastodon.socialK kingmoth@mastodon.social

    @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @Quantensalat @fj We have only the F150 in Europe, and even this one is not small by any metric, but it still manageable for everyday use.

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    @kingmoth @Quantensalat @fj

    I have an F150 Lightning EV and a VW Touareg TDI.

    If I lived in a European city, I wouldn't have either. The Lightning in particular would just be a pain to live with there.

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    • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

      @tkissing I was genuinely asking. Still not a reason to go full ballistic, but thatโ€™s just my point of view.

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      #85

      @reloadedhead
      "Why not let people decide if they want a giant car?"
      "Why not let people decide if they want to wear a mask when shipping during a pandemic?"

      If you want to ask good faith questions and get polite answers, try sounding different from assholes who very loudly put their personal comfort over the health and life of others for the past ~6 years.

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      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

        Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

        "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roadsโ€

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        @fj

        Good. I wish they'd keep them off our roads. Those things should be reserved for work just as semis are. In my opinion anybody who uses them for basic transportation should seek professional help.

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          @simon_brooke @CelloMomOnCars @fj Iโ€™m afraid such tax would also disincentivise EVs, as even the small ones would weigh considerably more than similar size internal combustion engine models. All the externalities should be accounted for.

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          • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

            Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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            @fj they're so dangerous. Part of this arms-race of "protecting ourselves on the road to the risk of everyone else." Their high center of gravity and sense of overconfidence is terrible for snowy conditions, and their enormous hoods make blindspots where even people in my neighborhood got killed by one of these things talking a turn and not seeing pedestrians.

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            • tkissing@mastodon.socialT tkissing@mastodon.social

              @reloadedhead
              "Why not let people decide if they want a giant car?"
              "Why not let people decide if they want to wear a mask when shipping during a pandemic?"

              If you want to ask good faith questions and get polite answers, try sounding different from assholes who very loudly put their personal comfort over the health and life of others for the past ~6 years.

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              @tkissing I expect polite answers because I think respect is something everyone should be granted, regardless if we agree or not. It is very easy to not insult people just because.

              I donโ€™t own such a truck and I donโ€™t even want to. Iโ€™ve never hurt anyone in any way or form. So I donโ€™t know why you are being this aggressive. But you do you.

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              • kensan@mastodon.socialK kensan@mastodon.social

                @fj Id much rather have Japanese Kei cars on our roads.

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                #90

                @Kensan @fj in Amsterdam microcars are more and more in use, but Kei cars would complement nicely, also for professional use.

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                • mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.orgM mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @fj I've been looking at cars recently, and I've decided to not get a Kia EV9 because it's too large to fit in normal parking spaces. The EV9 is 5 m, and this abomination is 6.35 m?! That's just bizzare.

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                  @mikaeleiman @fj thats why I like my Polestar 2 so much. 4,6m is shorter than most competitors, still ride is perfect and the width is also on the narrow side. The EV9 window line is above my roof ๐Ÿซฃ

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                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                    Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                    @fj

                    Especially after what the US (and Israel) have caused to the oil price...it's time to encrease public transportation and efficient electric small and medium sized cars....(small and medium by european standards !)

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                    • ll1t@mastodon.socialL ll1t@mastodon.social

                      @fj that vendors even see a market potential means that diesel and gas, while being near-unaffordable for a large part of the populace atm, are still not expensive enough for too many. Also: matching efforts by EU conservatives to reduce CO2 pricing before it takes full effect. @catsalad

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                      @ll1t @fj @catsalad these are status symbols for the 1%. They are insensitive to prices as any amount of consumption is a miniscule fraction of their wealth.

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                      • disco3000@climatejustice.socialD disco3000@climatejustice.social

                        @mikaeleiman @fj thats why I like my Polestar 2 so much. 4,6m is shorter than most competitors, still ride is perfect and the width is also on the narrow side. The EV9 window line is above my roof ๐Ÿซฃ

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                        @disco3000 if only someone made a not-huge seven seat carโ€ฆ Sigh.

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                        • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                          Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                          @fj around here only preppers, nazis and hill-billies are driving pickup trucks. And of course farmers ๐Ÿซฉ

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                          • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                            @tkissing I expect polite answers because I think respect is something everyone should be granted, regardless if we agree or not. It is very easy to not insult people just because.

                            I donโ€™t own such a truck and I donโ€™t even want to. Iโ€™ve never hurt anyone in any way or form. So I donโ€™t know why you are being this aggressive. But you do you.

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                            @reloadedhead unfortunately the attitude of presuming the worst and attacking people in unacceptable manner on that presumption is common around here.

                            We need to find collective ways to calm those people down as they poison the Commons with their insensitivity. Moderators are apparently not up to the task.

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                              Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                              @fj because they are huge heavy gas guzzling tanks and peeps are buying EVs as they cost less to run. 'MURICA! are going backwards in the car market and wondering why they are not selling.

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                                Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                @fj I really wish we could have an area tax: bigger vehicles take up more room and increase traffic.

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                                  @simon_brooke @fj
                                  That is exactly the road tax in the Netherlands. Well, not exactly... It's weight and fuel type.
                                  A light electric car is cheapest in taxes

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                                  • openrisk@mastodon.socialO openrisk@mastodon.social

                                    @reloadedhead unfortunately the attitude of presuming the worst and attacking people in unacceptable manner on that presumption is common around here.

                                    We need to find collective ways to calm those people down as they poison the Commons with their insensitivity. Moderators are apparently not up to the task.

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                                    @openrisk internet in general has always been. I do understand the โ€œpresuming the worstโ€ attitude. I am very reserved when it comes to trust. But respect on the other hand is very easy to grant!

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                                    • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

                                      @killionaire @fj yep stupid government tied emissions requirements to foot print size and shits been getting bigger ever since.

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                                      @Rin3d @killionaire @fj and the people who drive them really should not be. Because they think these are automobiles for a small city streets. They are showpieces now as the truck beds are so small you canโ€™t haul anything other than your trip to Costco. Good luck putting furniture in the back of one

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                                      • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                                        @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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                                        @reloadedhead @fj https://goingdark.social/@cyberwitch/116369172598482083
                                        You know, there are many truck drivers that get struck into narrow roads just because they followed G maps, that's another reason
                                        If you are a danger for people you have no right to do as you wish for no reasonable necessity

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                                          Keep these monstrosities off our roads ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                          @fj

                                          The EU should offer a compromise: allow the Tesla cybertruck to be sold.

                                          (Because absolutely no one will by it but the Trump regime are too stupid to figure that out. They'll take the "win" back to the boss with pride.)

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