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Canadian small business owners, do you use accounting software that is Canadian made?

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  • jerome@jasette.facil.servicesJ jerome@jasette.facil.services

    @britt Canadian made you’re likely looking at Wave

    The issue is when you grow enough is that accountants / bookkeepers only accept to work with certain tools. Which locks you in with shitty tools (aka QBO)

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    @jerome @britt I didn’t realize Wave is Canadian made. Thanks! (This makes me feel better about using it.)

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      @jerome @britt I didn’t realize Wave is Canadian made. Thanks! (This makes me feel better about using it.)

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      @jerome @britt I’m glad you asked this. Wave just started charging for features that used to be free (primarily bank transaction auto-import), so it’s been on my list to look for alternatives. (Funny how Wave, originally the alternative to QBO, now calls for its own alternative! 🤪)

      Sometimes I find good tools through @openalternative

      Here are some that might be in the ballpark (though I can’t speak to where they are made):

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      Akaunting: Open Source Alternative to Quickbooks, Xero and Bench

      Self-hostable accounting software covering invoicing, expense tracking, cash flow, and client portals. Free to use, available in 50+ languages.

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      OpenAlternative (openalternative.co)

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      Frappe Books: Open Source Alternative to Quickbooks, YNAB and Mint

      A user-friendly desktop accounting software that helps businesses manage invoices, track expenses, and handle bookkeeping with a modern interface.

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      OpenAlternative (openalternative.co)

      I’ll let you know if I find others!

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      • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

        @jerome @britt I’m glad you asked this. Wave just started charging for features that used to be free (primarily bank transaction auto-import), so it’s been on my list to look for alternatives. (Funny how Wave, originally the alternative to QBO, now calls for its own alternative! 🤪)

        Sometimes I find good tools through @openalternative

        Here are some that might be in the ballpark (though I can’t speak to where they are made):

        Link Preview Image
        Akaunting: Open Source Alternative to Quickbooks, Xero and Bench

        Self-hostable accounting software covering invoicing, expense tracking, cash flow, and client portals. Free to use, available in 50+ languages.

        favicon

        OpenAlternative (openalternative.co)

        Link Preview Image
        Frappe Books: Open Source Alternative to Quickbooks, YNAB and Mint

        A user-friendly desktop accounting software that helps businesses manage invoices, track expenses, and handle bookkeeping with a modern interface.

        favicon

        OpenAlternative (openalternative.co)

        I’ll let you know if I find others!

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        @scott Thank you so much for helping!!

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        • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

          @jerome @britt I’m glad you asked this. Wave just started charging for features that used to be free (primarily bank transaction auto-import), so it’s been on my list to look for alternatives. (Funny how Wave, originally the alternative to QBO, now calls for its own alternative! 🤪)

          Sometimes I find good tools through @openalternative

          Here are some that might be in the ballpark (though I can’t speak to where they are made):

          Link Preview Image
          Akaunting: Open Source Alternative to Quickbooks, Xero and Bench

          Self-hostable accounting software covering invoicing, expense tracking, cash flow, and client portals. Free to use, available in 50+ languages.

          favicon

          OpenAlternative (openalternative.co)

          Link Preview Image
          Frappe Books: Open Source Alternative to Quickbooks, YNAB and Mint

          A user-friendly desktop accounting software that helps businesses manage invoices, track expenses, and handle bookkeeping with a modern interface.

          favicon

          OpenAlternative (openalternative.co)

          I’ll let you know if I find others!

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          @scott @britt

          Didnt know Wave had started charging but honestly I prefer that. It’s normal for a business to pay an accounting tool and i remember few years ago when I was using Wave i felt afraid of the long term viability of a company that wasn’t charging anything. Either they sell my data or they go bankrupt.

          Id rather have them charge a fair price!

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          • jerome@jasette.facil.servicesJ jerome@jasette.facil.services

            @scott @britt

            Didnt know Wave had started charging but honestly I prefer that. It’s normal for a business to pay an accounting tool and i remember few years ago when I was using Wave i felt afraid of the long term viability of a company that wasn’t charging anything. Either they sell my data or they go bankrupt.

            Id rather have them charge a fair price!

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            @jerome @scott I don’t mind the charge for the same reasons, either. What does put me off as a small business is their lack of a free trial period of paid features before paying $25/month.

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            • jerome@jasette.facil.servicesJ jerome@jasette.facil.services

              @scott @britt

              Didnt know Wave had started charging but honestly I prefer that. It’s normal for a business to pay an accounting tool and i remember few years ago when I was using Wave i felt afraid of the long term viability of a company that wasn’t charging anything. Either they sell my data or they go bankrupt.

              Id rather have them charge a fair price!

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              @jerome @britt Yes, I agree! I would rather pay a moderate amount to cover their legitimate costs of running the service.

              But I was already annoyed with Wave for other reasons… mostly deleting the super helpful user forums, which were an amazing resource, and moving all “support” to an AI chat bot.

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              • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

                @jerome @britt Yes, I agree! I would rather pay a moderate amount to cover their legitimate costs of running the service.

                But I was already annoyed with Wave for other reasons… mostly deleting the super helpful user forums, which were an amazing resource, and moving all “support” to an AI chat bot.

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                @scott yikes! I have read their CS is lacking, too… so I’ll likely try another option.

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                • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

                  @jerome @britt Yes, I agree! I would rather pay a moderate amount to cover their legitimate costs of running the service.

                  But I was already annoyed with Wave for other reasons… mostly deleting the super helpful user forums, which were an amazing resource, and moving all “support” to an AI chat bot.

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                  @scott @britt ouch.

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                  • britt@mstdn.gamesB britt@mstdn.games

                    @scott yikes! I have read their CS is lacking, too… so I’ll likely try another option.

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                    @britt FWIW, I have narrowed my search and am testing two options:

                    Frappe Books — Free, runs locally, no cloud (from what I can tell). Also no paid option, so I am not sure how/why they are producing it. Maybe they have plans for freemium/paid plans in the future https://frappe.io/books

                    Manager — Free, runs locally. Paid option to use their cloud, if you need multiple users, etc. https://www.manager.io

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                    • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

                      @britt FWIW, I have narrowed my search and am testing two options:

                      Frappe Books — Free, runs locally, no cloud (from what I can tell). Also no paid option, so I am not sure how/why they are producing it. Maybe they have plans for freemium/paid plans in the future https://frappe.io/books

                      Manager — Free, runs locally. Paid option to use their cloud, if you need multiple users, etc. https://www.manager.io

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                      @scott Heyya! I actually think I’m going to give Xero a go for a bit… it seems to have the best price for what I personally need, overall. It’ll really help offload a lot of the cognitive work and that matters the most to me.

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