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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers.

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @wilbr @jairajdevadiga @jerry @idlebrain

    it doesn't matter if they sincerely believe it or not

    a lie is a lie

    jerry@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @benroyce @wilbr @jairajdevadiga @idlebrain I argue that propaganda doesn’t have to be a lie to be propaganda. I am reminded of my time in China - the news there only covered accomplishments and successes in China and only covered problems and failures from western countries. None of it was a lie. But it was definitely propaganda. That is what we are seeing a lot of here. Plus, it’s often challenging to determine what is true or not without an army of fact checkers at our disposal.

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    • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

      The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

      yuhasz01@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jerry

      Physically/manually scrutinize all follower requests. Check any new sources in your feeds. Many wankers appear in mine.

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      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

        The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

        ra6bit@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jerry Oh lovely, just what we need.

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        • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

          @jerry I realize this wouldn't work for everybody, but the number of bots trying to sign up to CoSocial.ca is zero, because we require that members pay $50 a year to run the service.

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          @timbray @jerry hm, check your reports, I at least found a rather suspicious new account recently

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          • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

            @timbray @jerry hm, check your reports, I at least found a rather suspicious new account recently

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            @mirabilos @jerry Yeah, it was @_daisy - looks OK to me

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            • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

              @mirabilos @jerry Yeah, it was @_daisy - looks OK to me

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              @mirabilos Oh, now I remember. Yes, it was weird that their followING showed up before their followERS. No idea what was up tbh but it seems to have sorted itself out.

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              • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

                zerotrustwraith@infosec.exchangeZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jerry This is the unfortunate reality of the internet right now. A free, open internet also fosters an environment for botnets and propaganda. Just like freedom of speech and other civil rights, it's a double edged sword.

                While we can remain proactive and fight back against people with malicious intent, bad actors will always try to abuse systems created by those with good intentions and that is just the reality we have to accept.

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                • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                  @mirabilos @jerry Yeah, it was @_daisy - looks OK to me

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                  @timbray @jerry ah, yes, looks okay now; at that point in time, it was highly suspicious

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                  • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                    @mirabilos Oh, now I remember. Yes, it was weird that their followING showed up before their followERS. No idea what was up tbh but it seems to have sorted itself out.

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                    @timbray thanks

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                    • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                      @timbray thanks

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                      @timbray ah! Apparently, it was a move only half-federated at that time, and when the follow request arrived, my instance could not yet see even a filled-out profile.

                      (People, if you move, perhaps post first on both the old and new profile that you’re doing it; after the move, you cannot post on the old one any more, and absence of such makes it seem illegitimate way too easily.)

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                      • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                        @timbray ah! Apparently, it was a move only half-federated at that time, and when the follow request arrived, my instance could not yet see even a filled-out profile.

                        (People, if you move, perhaps post first on both the old and new profile that you’re doing it; after the move, you cannot post on the old one any more, and absence of such makes it seem illegitimate way too easily.)

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                        @_daisy please send another follow request, now that I know, I can accept it

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                        • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                          @jerry I realize this wouldn't work for everybody, but the number of bots trying to sign up to CoSocial.ca is zero, because we require that members pay $50 a year to run the service.

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                          @timbray (and, or that matter, 50$/year is decidedly less than even the external costs of running one’s own instance unless you already have some infrastructure you can add it to) (this in case anyone reads this and wonders)

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                          • catsalad@sigmoid.socialC catsalad@sigmoid.social

                            @mek2600 @catsalad@infosec.exchange @jerry Domestic housewives imply the existence of feral housewives

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                            @catsalad@sigmoid.social @mek2600 @catsalad@infosec.exchange @jerry Being married to a feral house might not be half bad.

                            Seriously, though, the increase in scammers is also pretty awful.

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                            • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                              The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

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                              #37

                              @jerry beep boop

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                              • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

                                maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #38

                                @jerry
                                Every time one of my post does numbers, I get some really weird follows, some of which I even have to block. But mostly I haven't experienced this bullcrap. I credit my wonderful admin. This server is awesome if anybody needs a new one!

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                                • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

                                  @jerry
                                  Every time one of my post does numbers, I get some really weird follows, some of which I even have to block. But mostly I haven't experienced this bullcrap. I credit my wonderful admin. This server is awesome if anybody needs a new one!

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                                  @MaryAustinBooks I can confirm, your admin is great as is the instance you are on.

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                                  • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                    The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

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                                    Time to bring out the air defense missile batteries and albino-cyber-bunnies with laser eyes!

                                    Thanks for keeping us safe @jerry 😇

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                                    • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                      The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

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                                      #41

                                      @jerry REMEMBER WHY WE'RE HERE!

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                                      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                        The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there

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                                        @jerry Do you have any examples that you can share? How can regular users spot them? I'm guessing that they're not particularly sophisticated, but are there "signs?"

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                                        • M muddle@infosec.exchange

                                          @jerry Do you have any examples that you can share? How can regular users spot them? I'm guessing that they're not particularly sophisticated, but are there "signs?"

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                                          @muddle the easiest way to spot them is stolen profile pics, usually of someone notable but not super famous, sort of unremarkable bio on their profile, and they post almost exclusively about a topic that somewhat polarizing. The big ones at the moment are accounts posting articles that are negative about Ukraine and its president and their performance in the war. But I also see the same from the Ukraine side. Accounts have signed up with .gov.il email addresses to post things favorable to Israel. Behind the scenes, they normally use tor to connect, use email accounts on disposable email domains, and don’t make a lot of sense when explaining why they want to join.

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