The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers.
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@idlebrain one of the biggest challenges I’ve run into is defining where the line is between propaganda, and someone’s heartfelt genuine belief. Particularly if you consider that generally people who have a particular view will consider opposing views this propaganda.
@jerry @idlebrain It's propaganda if they are being dishonest and wilfully spreading misinformation.
It's possible to have genuinely differing beliefs as long as we can agree on basic facts. Unfortunately the current media landscape, combined with chatbots, has made many people completely detached from reality.
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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there
Block and report
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@jerry @idlebrain It's propaganda if they are being dishonest and wilfully spreading misinformation.
It's possible to have genuinely differing beliefs as long as we can agree on basic facts. Unfortunately the current media landscape, combined with chatbots, has made many people completely detached from reality.
@jairajdevadiga @jerry @idlebrain we can't see into their minds though; what if they honestly believe that 5G causes cancer and have scientific studies to prove it? Part of the modern disinformation goal is to muddy all forms of reality.
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@catsalad@sigmoid.social @catsalad @jerry Now we're talkin! I wonder if there are any feral housewives in my area...
@mek2600 @catsalad@sigmoid.social @catsalad@infosec.exchange @jerry I think they call those cougars.
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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there
@jerry It's a component of growth sadly, Fediverse engagement rates are ridiculously high compared to other platforms.
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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there
@jerry
They rapidly change their tactics re: usernames and especially the descriptions. Seems the shift gears weekly.The one thing that's always constant are the random email domains with common links behind them.
They're pretty easy to spot, but only because I'm hyper aware of them.
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@jairajdevadiga @jerry @idlebrain we can't see into their minds though; what if they honestly believe that 5G causes cancer and have scientific studies to prove it? Part of the modern disinformation goal is to muddy all forms of reality.
@wilbr @jairajdevadiga @jerry @idlebrain
it doesn't matter if they sincerely believe it or not
a lie is a lie
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@wilbr @jairajdevadiga @jerry @idlebrain
it doesn't matter if they sincerely believe it or not
a lie is a lie
@benroyce @wilbr @jairajdevadiga @idlebrain I argue that propaganda doesn’t have to be a lie to be propaganda. I am reminded of my time in China - the news there only covered accomplishments and successes in China and only covered problems and failures from western countries. None of it was a lie. But it was definitely propaganda. That is what we are seeing a lot of here. Plus, it’s often challenging to determine what is true or not without an army of fact checkers at our disposal.
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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there
Physically/manually scrutinize all follower requests. Check any new sources in your feeds. Many wankers appear in mine.
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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there
@jerry Oh lovely, just what we need.
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@jerry I realize this wouldn't work for everybody, but the number of bots trying to sign up to CoSocial.ca is zero, because we require that members pay $50 a year to run the service.
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@mirabilos @jerry Yeah, it was @_daisy - looks OK to me
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@mirabilos @jerry Yeah, it was @_daisy - looks OK to me
@mirabilos Oh, now I remember. Yes, it was weird that their followING showed up before their followERS. No idea what was up tbh but it seems to have sorted itself out.
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The amount of propaganda bots trying to sign up lately is bonkers. The fediverse feels like it’s becoming a battleground for information warfare. Be safe out there
@jerry This is the unfortunate reality of the internet right now. A free, open internet also fosters an environment for botnets and propaganda. Just like freedom of speech and other civil rights, it's a double edged sword.
While we can remain proactive and fight back against people with malicious intent, bad actors will always try to abuse systems created by those with good intentions and that is just the reality we have to accept.
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@mirabilos @jerry Yeah, it was @_daisy - looks OK to me
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@mirabilos Oh, now I remember. Yes, it was weird that their followING showed up before their followERS. No idea what was up tbh but it seems to have sorted itself out.
@timbray thanks
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@timbray thanks
@timbray ah! Apparently, it was a move only half-federated at that time, and when the follow request arrived, my instance could not yet see even a filled-out profile.
(People, if you move, perhaps post first on both the old and new profile that you’re doing it; after the move, you cannot post on the old one any more, and absence of such makes it seem illegitimate way too easily.)
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@timbray ah! Apparently, it was a move only half-federated at that time, and when the follow request arrived, my instance could not yet see even a filled-out profile.
(People, if you move, perhaps post first on both the old and new profile that you’re doing it; after the move, you cannot post on the old one any more, and absence of such makes it seem illegitimate way too easily.)
@_daisy please send another follow request, now that I know, I can accept it
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@jerry I realize this wouldn't work for everybody, but the number of bots trying to sign up to CoSocial.ca is zero, because we require that members pay $50 a year to run the service.
@timbray (and, or that matter, 50$/year is decidedly less than even the external costs of running one’s own instance unless you already have some infrastructure you can add it to) (this in case anyone reads this and wonders)
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@mek2600 @catsalad@infosec.exchange @jerry Domestic housewives imply the existence of feral housewives
@catsalad@sigmoid.social @mek2600 @catsalad@infosec.exchange @jerry Being married to a feral house might not be half bad.
Seriously, though, the increase in scammers is also pretty awful.