685: The Ability to Be Hotterhttps://atp.fm/685
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Apple's monolithic designs made sense, and scaled up to well to the Max.
With the M5 Pro/Max, Apple is now on heterogenous chiplets, but Apple's not scaling multiples of them (I think it is just a CPU die and a GPU die).
We don't know how they'll scale up to Ultra (or even Quadra... my preferred term), without designing NEW chiplets.
With the M7 and M8 we'll see if Apple gets to multiple CPU dies and multiple GPU dies to allow true efficient scaling.
@dschaub @atpfm oh yes, for the majority of their line, a monolithic design likely makes sense (see the first whitepaper I referenced, early on, for a discussion of the downsides of chiplets). That's why I specifically referenced relating to the Mac Pro.
I do posit they ran into the issues with their monolithic design prior to the Mac Pro: their ultra fusion interconnector meant they got some of the disadvantages of chiplets without the yield & process benefits of true chiplets.
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@dschaub @atpfm oh yes, for the majority of their line, a monolithic design likely makes sense (see the first whitepaper I referenced, early on, for a discussion of the downsides of chiplets). That's why I specifically referenced relating to the Mac Pro.
I do posit they ran into the issues with their monolithic design prior to the Mac Pro: their ultra fusion interconnector meant they got some of the disadvantages of chiplets without the yield & process benefits of true chiplets.
Anyway, I think Apple's trajectory is good, so the M6, M7, and M8 should be fine.
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Anyway, I think Apple's trajectory is good, so the M6, M7, and M8 should be fine.
@dschaub agreed.
I'll be interested to see if they go down a similar route to amd of having chiplets on "legacy" processes for tasks that wouldn't benefit from miniaturisation (like I/O), while keeping the remaining CPU and GPU functions on the bleeding edge, or if they will stick to monolithic chiplets.
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685: The Ability to Be Hotter
https://atp.fm/685Farewell, Mac Pro.
@siracusa@mastodon.socia,
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685: The Ability to Be Hotter
https://atp.fm/685Farewell, Mac Pro.
@atpfm
Marco: “They use the term ‘the big island’ because that’s more descriptive”I’ve always thought that “Long Island” was also fairly descriptive.
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685: The Ability to Be Hotter
https://atp.fm/685Farewell, Mac Pro.
I’m with you in the spirit of your post-show. However 9 Supreme Court justices over-rule in this case. Which for all visible purposes it would appear Long Island is an island. It has legally been clarified as and deemed a peninsula.
The Reason Long Island Isn't Considered an Island
The peninsula just happens to have a little water between it and the mainland.
Mental Floss (www.mentalfloss.com)
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