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So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran?

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  • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

    So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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    @nxadm dictator from day 1. As he promised. Whoever goes against his will, will be punished.

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    • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

      So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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      Cutting trade will damage a country greatly. Imagine completely cutting oil (and hence electricity) like the fascist child molester is doing to Cuba.

      EU politicians besides Spain? "Great job daddy Trump on Venezuela and Iran! Please spank me too".

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      • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

        So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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        @nxadm No more Marlboro and Coca-Cola oooh Wait!!!!!!
        Bye,bye

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        • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

          So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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          Trump: ‘We’re going to cut off all trade with Spain’

          The US president lashed out at the Spanish government after it blocked Washington from using its bases

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          @nxadm
          L'Espagne joue un drôle de jeu, on se demande parfois s'ils se rappellent avoir été occupés par les Arabes pendant des siècles.

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          • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

            Cutting trade will damage a country greatly. Imagine completely cutting oil (and hence electricity) like the fascist child molester is doing to Cuba.

            EU politicians besides Spain? "Great job daddy Trump on Venezuela and Iran! Please spank me too".

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            @nxadm you might like this: https://coup53.com

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            • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

              So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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              Trump: ‘We’re going to cut off all trade with Spain’

              The US president lashed out at the Spanish government after it blocked Washington from using its bases

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              @nxadm The US and Israel are basically waging a war against humanity.

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              • V voxclamans@infosec.exchange

                @nxadm
                L'Espagne joue un drôle de jeu, on se demande parfois s'ils se rappellent avoir été occupés par les Arabes pendant des siècles.

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                @VoxClamans

                L’identité chrétienne forgée pendant la Reconquista a profondément marqué l’Espagne médiévale, mais son rôle et le rôle de l'Andalus dans la politique espagnole contemporaine sont plutôt symboliques que réellement structurant aujourd’hui.

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                • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                  @VoxClamans

                  L’identité chrétienne forgée pendant la Reconquista a profondément marqué l’Espagne médiévale, mais son rôle et le rôle de l'Andalus dans la politique espagnole contemporaine sont plutôt symboliques que réellement structurant aujourd’hui.

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                  @nxadm
                  Al troll no se le alimenta, al troll se le bloquea.
                  No alimentes al troll.

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                  • disisdeguey@expressional.socialD disisdeguey@expressional.social

                    @nxadm No more Marlboro and Coca-Cola oooh Wait!!!!!!
                    Bye,bye

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                    @disisdeguey @nxadm

                    No problem, Then I'll drink sangria and smoke Cuban cigars...

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                    • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                      @VoxClamans

                      L’identité chrétienne forgée pendant la Reconquista a profondément marqué l’Espagne médiévale, mais son rôle et le rôle de l'Andalus dans la politique espagnole contemporaine sont plutôt symboliques que réellement structurant aujourd’hui.

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                      @nxadm
                      Eh oui, El Matamoros est bien loin.
                      Cela dit, je ne me rappelle plus où ni qui, mais des commentateurs arabes apparemment islamistes avaient mentionné explicitement l'Espagne comme terre à reconquérir. Du genre : «Nizza! Savoia! Corsica! Tunisia! A noi!» si l'entre-deux-guerres ne vous est pas inconnue.

                      J'ai même à ce propos retrouvé ce texte (et ajouté la traduction Google après, per che sono Frencese e no parlo Italiano) :

                      A noi per la sicurezza ci servirebbe malta. poi non sarebbero male anche nizza, la savoia, corsica e tunisia, senza contare fiume e la croazia.
                      per come fare saprei a chi chiedere un consiglio.
                      ah, ah, ah.
                      chi se lo ricorda? da piccoli, sotto il fascismo, ci facevano cantare, anche a scuola, questa nenia, in particolare rivolta alla francia:
                      "vogliam nizza e savoia
                      corsica e tunisia,
                      è tutta roba mia
                      me l'hai truffata, me l'hai rubata,
                      tu me la devi ridar."
                      poveri innocenti, noi la cantavamo. ma babbo non voleva assolutamente neanche sentirne parlare.

                      Pour notre sécurité, il nous faudrait Malte. Nice, la Savoie, la Corse et la Tunisie ne seraient pas mal non plus, sans parler de Rijeka et de la Croatie.
                      Je sais à qui demander conseil sur la façon de procéder.

                      Ha, ha, ha.
                      Qui s'en souvient ? Enfants, sous le fascisme, on nous faisait chanter, même à l'école, cette berceuse, adressée spécifiquement à la France :
                      « Nous voulons Nice et la Savoie,
                      La Corse et la Tunisie,
                      Tout est à moi,
                      Vous nous l'avez volée,
                      Vous devez me la rendre. »
                      Pauvres innocents, nous la chantions. Mais papa refusait catégoriquement d'en entendre parler.

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                      • r_daneel_olivaw@tuiter.rocksR r_daneel_olivaw@tuiter.rocks

                        @nxadm
                        Al troll no se le alimenta, al troll se le bloquea.
                        No alimentes al troll.

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                        @R_Daneel_Olivaw

                        Ya lo bloqueé 🙂

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                        • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                          @R_Daneel_Olivaw

                          Ya lo bloqueé 🙂

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                          @nxadm

                          Es un troll de libro.
                          Hiciste bien, yo también lo bloqueé.

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                          • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                            So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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                            @nxadm there is no war. They don't want a change in regime either. Weakening and keeping in control is enough. All of this is mostly some act.

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                            • burak@gursoy.socialB burak@gursoy.social

                              @nxadm there is no war. They don't want a change in regime either. Weakening and keeping in control is enough. All of this is mostly some act.

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                              @burak

                              The thing is that your statement applies to Iran as to the EU.

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                              • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                                @burak

                                The thing is that your statement applies to Iran as to the EU.

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                                @nxadm all relevant parties, indeed.

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                                • burak@gursoy.socialB burak@gursoy.social

                                  @nxadm all relevant parties, indeed.

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                                  @nxadm this will be a speculation, so that I have no facts nor any proof, but I believe that their leader (more akin to a Pope in their belief) who got killed is a concern, however, he was already too old and who knows for how long he would’ve lived. Martyrdom is a very strong concept in there and my speculation is that; since his death was pretty much a stupid occasion, he might have wanted to get killed instead of dying of old age. It can still be stupidity though

                                  See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrdom_in_Iran

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                                  • burak@gursoy.socialB burak@gursoy.social

                                    @nxadm this will be a speculation, so that I have no facts nor any proof, but I believe that their leader (more akin to a Pope in their belief) who got killed is a concern, however, he was already too old and who knows for how long he would’ve lived. Martyrdom is a very strong concept in there and my speculation is that; since his death was pretty much a stupid occasion, he might have wanted to get killed instead of dying of old age. It can still be stupidity though

                                    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrdom_in_Iran

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                                    @burak

                                    I think that martyrdom is useful, but I don't think many people choose it. But he certainly knew it was a strong possibility. How long is the USA boarding about "bunker killers" (B52 bombs).

                                    I think that Trump rushed things for the mid-term elections. I suspect they are overstretched because of the distance and the size of the country.

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                                    • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                                      So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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                                      @nxadm

                                      Basically Trump wants a trade war with the EU.

                                      Because you *can't* cut off trade with a single EU member: it's a free movement customs union with a single currency, there is *no way* to determine that the car you're importing from France isn't being delivered from a factory in Spain.

                                      Trying to ban imports from Spain would be like banning imports from Tennessee. It's all or nothing when you go up again *either* the EU or the USA.

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                                      • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                                        @burak

                                        I think that martyrdom is useful, but I don't think many people choose it. But he certainly knew it was a strong possibility. How long is the USA boarding about "bunker killers" (B52 bombs).

                                        I think that Trump rushed things for the mid-term elections. I suspect they are overstretched because of the distance and the size of the country.

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                                        @nxadm if what I think is correct, he basically flipped the bird and said check! His people are now busy with slapping the whipping boys around the gulf.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @nxadm

                                          Basically Trump wants a trade war with the EU.

                                          Because you *can't* cut off trade with a single EU member: it's a free movement customs union with a single currency, there is *no way* to determine that the car you're importing from France isn't being delivered from a factory in Spain.

                                          Trying to ban imports from Spain would be like banning imports from Tennessee. It's all or nothing when you go up again *either* the EU or the USA.

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                                          @cstross @nxadm

                                          Also, Spain isn't Canada or Mexico. US trade isn't central to their economy. Looks like they do ~$20B each way w/ US, out of ~$400B total trade.

                                          That's low enough for Spain to invoke national pride, completely boycott US goods. Not so much have a trade war as walk away in anger and disgust.

                                          What would the bully do then?

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