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So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran?

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  • r_daneel_olivaw@tuiter.rocksR r_daneel_olivaw@tuiter.rocks

    @nxadm
    Al troll no se le alimenta, al troll se le bloquea.
    No alimentes al troll.

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    @R_Daneel_Olivaw

    Ya lo bloqueé 🙂

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    • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

      @R_Daneel_Olivaw

      Ya lo bloqueé 🙂

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      @nxadm

      Es un troll de libro.
      Hiciste bien, yo también lo bloqueé.

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      • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

        So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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        @nxadm there is no war. They don't want a change in regime either. Weakening and keeping in control is enough. All of this is mostly some act.

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        • burak@gursoy.socialB burak@gursoy.social

          @nxadm there is no war. They don't want a change in regime either. Weakening and keeping in control is enough. All of this is mostly some act.

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          @burak

          The thing is that your statement applies to Iran as to the EU.

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          • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

            @burak

            The thing is that your statement applies to Iran as to the EU.

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            @nxadm all relevant parties, indeed.

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            • burak@gursoy.socialB burak@gursoy.social

              @nxadm all relevant parties, indeed.

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              @nxadm this will be a speculation, so that I have no facts nor any proof, but I believe that their leader (more akin to a Pope in their belief) who got killed is a concern, however, he was already too old and who knows for how long he would’ve lived. Martyrdom is a very strong concept in there and my speculation is that; since his death was pretty much a stupid occasion, he might have wanted to get killed instead of dying of old age. It can still be stupidity though

              See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrdom_in_Iran

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              • burak@gursoy.socialB burak@gursoy.social

                @nxadm this will be a speculation, so that I have no facts nor any proof, but I believe that their leader (more akin to a Pope in their belief) who got killed is a concern, however, he was already too old and who knows for how long he would’ve lived. Martyrdom is a very strong concept in there and my speculation is that; since his death was pretty much a stupid occasion, he might have wanted to get killed instead of dying of old age. It can still be stupidity though

                See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrdom_in_Iran

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                @burak

                I think that martyrdom is useful, but I don't think many people choose it. But he certainly knew it was a strong possibility. How long is the USA boarding about "bunker killers" (B52 bombs).

                I think that Trump rushed things for the mid-term elections. I suspect they are overstretched because of the distance and the size of the country.

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                • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                  So, does anyone still believe that the war is only against Iran? I mean besides EU politicians.

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                  Trump: ‘We’re going to cut off all trade with Spain’

                  The US president lashed out at the Spanish government after it blocked Washington from using its bases

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                  EL PAÍS English (english.elpais.com)

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                  @nxadm

                  Basically Trump wants a trade war with the EU.

                  Because you *can't* cut off trade with a single EU member: it's a free movement customs union with a single currency, there is *no way* to determine that the car you're importing from France isn't being delivered from a factory in Spain.

                  Trying to ban imports from Spain would be like banning imports from Tennessee. It's all or nothing when you go up again *either* the EU or the USA.

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                  • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                    @burak

                    I think that martyrdom is useful, but I don't think many people choose it. But he certainly knew it was a strong possibility. How long is the USA boarding about "bunker killers" (B52 bombs).

                    I think that Trump rushed things for the mid-term elections. I suspect they are overstretched because of the distance and the size of the country.

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                    @nxadm if what I think is correct, he basically flipped the bird and said check! His people are now busy with slapping the whipping boys around the gulf.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      @nxadm

                      Basically Trump wants a trade war with the EU.

                      Because you *can't* cut off trade with a single EU member: it's a free movement customs union with a single currency, there is *no way* to determine that the car you're importing from France isn't being delivered from a factory in Spain.

                      Trying to ban imports from Spain would be like banning imports from Tennessee. It's all or nothing when you go up again *either* the EU or the USA.

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                      @cstross @nxadm

                      Also, Spain isn't Canada or Mexico. US trade isn't central to their economy. Looks like they do ~$20B each way w/ US, out of ~$400B total trade.

                      That's low enough for Spain to invoke national pride, completely boycott US goods. Not so much have a trade war as walk away in anger and disgust.

                      What would the bully do then?

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