Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them.
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@cwebber Oooh, this quote, exactly!
"...In my view, the most likely explanation for this is not generational preference but biological development. The older group probably offloaded tasks they already knew how to perform. The younger group offloaded task they never learned how to perform. These neural pathways for source evaluation and constructing arguments were never formed. You can’t atrophy a muscle that was never built...."
@ai6yr @cwebber When mentoring students I often get the question - how do you figure things out so quickly.
Then I tell them that I've been messing with hardware and software since I was in my early teens - and I made tons of (innocent) mistakes.
When you get to be an adult you then know how to approach complex systems where you might not have this much margin.
Much of it is heuristics. Offloading heuristics (despite biases) is a VERY BAD IDEA.
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@ai6yr @cwebber When mentoring students I often get the question - how do you figure things out so quickly.
Then I tell them that I've been messing with hardware and software since I was in my early teens - and I made tons of (innocent) mistakes.
When you get to be an adult you then know how to approach complex systems where you might not have this much margin.
Much of it is heuristics. Offloading heuristics (despite biases) is a VERY BAD IDEA.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber I was having this discussion with co-workers and came to the conclusion that with people relying on AI, things are gonna stagnate. no "new" knowledge will be pumped into the system so it will just be regurgitated slop once people stop thinking for themselves.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber and there it is: our education system has mostly been designed for compliance. It needs a redesign because humans will follow the incentives. We are not complicated that way.
We need to incentivize critical thinking. Thankfully, compliance was never one of my parenting goals. Nor should it be anyone’s.
Cooperation is a much better goal.
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@ai6yr @cwebber When mentoring students I often get the question - how do you figure things out so quickly.
Then I tell them that I've been messing with hardware and software since I was in my early teens - and I made tons of (innocent) mistakes.
When you get to be an adult you then know how to approach complex systems where you might not have this much margin.
Much of it is heuristics. Offloading heuristics (despite biases) is a VERY BAD IDEA.
@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber experience: the collection of times when you went "oh, shit..." and filed it under "no, not doing that again, nope" for future reference.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber oof yeah, Sam Altman’s dream, apparently
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
Anecdata: Asked a specifying question for my context of a presenter at an event. His answer: “I have set up an LLM to answer questions from these files at this url. Give it a try!”
I did not and I will not.
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@ai6yr @cwebber When mentoring students I often get the question - how do you figure things out so quickly.
Then I tell them that I've been messing with hardware and software since I was in my early teens - and I made tons of (innocent) mistakes.
When you get to be an adult you then know how to approach complex systems where you might not have this much margin.
Much of it is heuristics. Offloading heuristics (despite biases) is a VERY BAD IDEA.
@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber This is the good case scenario. The bad case scenario is https://circumstances.run/@agturcz/114568845841328174
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@cwebber oof yeah, Sam Altman’s dream, apparently
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@koen_hufkens @ai6yr @cwebber This is the good case scenario. The bad case scenario is https://circumstances.run/@agturcz/114568845841328174
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber More fodder for the top 1% wealthiest, to squeeze as much out of the masses as they can.
De Oppresso Liber
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber This is the downside of using AI, which gives us everything ready-made, so all mental effort becomes unnecessary, weakening our minds.
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It is difficult to interpret the Trump administration’s wholesale attacks on governmental programs as anything other than accelerationist efforts to destroy basic features of the American political and economic systems. From DOGE’s Artificial Intelligence-rampage through federal bureaus, the destruction of agencies like the Department of Education, or Trump’s expanding ICE as his well-funded private domestic army and occupying Democrat-governed cities; the destruction of old standards of normalcy are clear. While documents like Project 2025 reveal elements of Trump’s game plan, there are serious open questions concerning the administration’s long game and exactly how far the oligarchs influencing Trump want to take this antidemocratic movement.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
developers who delegated coding to AI produced working code but failed conceptual understanding
I wish tech industry would have that sink in
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developers who delegated coding to AI produced working code but failed conceptual understanding
I wish tech industry would have that sink in
@gytisrepecka @cwebber "working"
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
@cwebber I have been developing Adverserial skills....
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@cwebber and there it is: our education system has mostly been designed for compliance. It needs a redesign because humans will follow the incentives. We are not complicated that way.
We need to incentivize critical thinking. Thankfully, compliance was never one of my parenting goals. Nor should it be anyone’s.
Cooperation is a much better goal.
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Adults lose skills to AI; Children never build them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind/202603/adults-lose-skills-to-ai-children-never-build-them
