Any historic finance people out there?
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Any historic finance people out there? I'm trying to determine what the abbreviated text in this chart means. It's from a 1917 magazine.
I figured out "T.T. in London" is "Telegraph Transfers in London". I think "Sov. Bnk. Buy. Rate" is "Sovereign Bank Buy Rate", though I'm not positive since there's a period after "Buy." in the original and I don't know what it would actually mean anyway. And the "Buy" in "Gold Bnk. Buy. Rt." also has the period.
"Tis." and "Mative Int." still completely elude me.
#finance #history #Shanghai #ChinaHistory #InvestmentHistory

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Any historic finance people out there? I'm trying to determine what the abbreviated text in this chart means. It's from a 1917 magazine.
I figured out "T.T. in London" is "Telegraph Transfers in London". I think "Sov. Bnk. Buy. Rate" is "Sovereign Bank Buy Rate", though I'm not positive since there's a period after "Buy." in the original and I don't know what it would actually mean anyway. And the "Buy" in "Gold Bnk. Buy. Rt." also has the period.
"Tis." and "Mative Int." still completely elude me.
#finance #history #Shanghai #ChinaHistory #InvestmentHistory

Ooooo I found something about the financial markets during the Treaty Port Era of Shanghai!
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Ooooo I found something about the financial markets during the Treaty Port Era of Shanghai!
Sovereign Bank Buying Rate
Gold Bar Bank Buying RateTls. = Taels, apparently a weight-based unit of silver for accounting purposes. Specifically, Shanghai Taels in this context since the tael measurement was different throughout China!
Mative Int. = Native Interest Rate
This was interesting, it's actually a mis-print in this issue! I found another issue to verify it's supposed to be "Native Int."!Wow, and "Mexican" in this context actually means a specific grade of silver dollar coins, common in China at the time.
Apparently I just needed to ask the fediverse and help the universe direct me to the answers. Thanks for all of the boosts!
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Sovereign Bank Buying Rate
Gold Bar Bank Buying RateTls. = Taels, apparently a weight-based unit of silver for accounting purposes. Specifically, Shanghai Taels in this context since the tael measurement was different throughout China!
Mative Int. = Native Interest Rate
This was interesting, it's actually a mis-print in this issue! I found another issue to verify it's supposed to be "Native Int."!Wow, and "Mexican" in this context actually means a specific grade of silver dollar coins, common in China at the time.
Apparently I just needed to ask the fediverse and help the universe direct me to the answers. Thanks for all of the boosts!
This was the source I found and parsed quickly:
The Currencies Of China: An Investigation Of Silver & Gold Transactions Affecting China. With A Section On Copper
https://archive.org/details/currenciesofchin00kann_0
Just a little light reading!

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Sovereign Bank Buying Rate
Gold Bar Bank Buying RateTls. = Taels, apparently a weight-based unit of silver for accounting purposes. Specifically, Shanghai Taels in this context since the tael measurement was different throughout China!
Mative Int. = Native Interest Rate
This was interesting, it's actually a mis-print in this issue! I found another issue to verify it's supposed to be "Native Int."!Wow, and "Mexican" in this context actually means a specific grade of silver dollar coins, common in China at the time.
Apparently I just needed to ask the fediverse and help the universe direct me to the answers. Thanks for all of the boosts!
@nabeards a lot of the global economy from the 16th century to the 18tn century was sailing silver from Mexico and Peru to the Netherlands, whence it passed to China via India, and Manila Galleons carried some East Asian goods from the Philippines to Mexico where they could be carried by land to the ships waiting for silver in the Caribbean. "Its the circle of trade / and it moves us all ..."
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@nabeards a lot of the global economy from the 16th century to the 18tn century was sailing silver from Mexico and Peru to the Netherlands, whence it passed to China via India, and Manila Galleons carried some East Asian goods from the Philippines to Mexico where they could be carried by land to the ships waiting for silver in the Caribbean. "Its the circle of trade / and it moves us all ..."
@bookandswordblog so fascinating! I'm working on recreating this old magazine as an eBook and the amount of history I have learned from a *single issue* is mesmerizing.
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@bookandswordblog so fascinating! I'm working on recreating this old magazine as an eBook and the amount of history I have learned from a *single issue* is mesmerizing.
@nabeards Wikipedia says that tael is not derived from Thaler like English dollar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liang_(mass)#Name_of_Tael
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