Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

[nunesgh@mastodon.social]

@mcnado
The Ivermectin lobby has been on fire since the COVID-19 pandemic. Ivermectin for everything and everybody!

[cthw@mstdn.ca]

@mcnado

I don't understand.
Why do people believe in a new form snake oil when it doesn't work?
Medicine by populist politics is a non-starter …

[horqua@mastodon.social]

@mcnado I understand ivermectin will kill ear mites in cats.

[jens@social.finkhaeuser.de]

@edsullivan @sundogplanets @mcnado yeah, I had to dose it accurately for pet rats from a tube of horse wormer paste. TL;DR is, I learned a lot about the dangers of overdosing (no animals suffered in this).

Which always makes me think about how likely it is for people who would use it on themselves for weird reasons to also get the dosage right, and what that means for their brain health.

[beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org]

@mcnado honestly, I know two people who took ivermectin instead of getting vaccines. One girl just died from pancreatic cancer that she developed about a year after having Covid twice. Her niece has had trouble with her eyes, depression, stomach issues.
I don’t know that there’s a correlation, but they were perfectly healthy before Covid and ivermectin. I can’t imagine that taking random doses over-the-counter ivermectin would be good for your health.

[tasharoni@a2mi.social]

@mcnado Well, at least they are not taking Hydroxychloriquine again (Last time I think they caused a shortage for people who actually need it).

[tjbutt58@infosec.exchange]

@autolycos @mcnado it's just stupid deep state paranoia.
"They're out to get us and make money, so they won't let us have the good stuff"

[labspokane@mas.to]

@mcnado OK, but vitamin C ... <ducks flying chair>

[pinsk@freeradical.zone]

@mcnado

Do I need to know about the OK theory?

[vonxylofon@witter.cz]

@mcnado Meanwhile, ivermectin isn't approved worldwide for scabies, a thing in humans it actually solves.

[ignova@sunny.garden]

@Scienceisnotopinions @mcnado before it had been properly investigated, it wasn't such a far-fetched idea that ivermectin could have off-target benefits like mitigating covid symptoms. after all, weirder things have turned out to be essential medicines, like the compounds produced by mould (penicillin). there are also some existing medicines that work, even though we don't know how (like lithium).

of course now we know that ivermectin is useless against covid. but dismissing unusual ideas without investigating them could mean leaving future cures undiscovered.

[ctminfocom@fosstodon.org]

@mcnado
Biology and medicine still remain domains where 100% precise information does not yet exist.

Where there is too much uncertainty, contradiction, and unverifiable hypotheses, fraud, manipulation, and false hopes inevitably appear.

That is why humanity needs systems built on maximum precise and verifiable information.

ORCID

(orcid.org)

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@ShnoofleBear @mcnado damm right

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@RevXenoFact @mcnado perfect!

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@oldclumsy_nowmad @mcnado any Virus plus bacteria

[maristya@norden.social]

@mcnado horseshit. Quite literally…

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@LabSpokane @mcnado roflol

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@ctminfocom @mcnado amen

[qole@techhub.social]

@mcnado @pluralistic
This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

[ee@mastodon.nl]

@tjbutt58 all the while it's the deep states that keep countries running when the public-facing politics are in scrambles.