#UnpopularOpinion: Open registration is an anti-pattern for the #Fediverse.
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I'm sorry if this reads like there's a "yes" part of any sort. That wasn't intended in any way. Both points should describe why it'll not produce a positive change.
@Computeum So it's an absolute NO to you. Got it. What has triggered me here is that absolute no. No "in my opinion". But you saying there is no "yes" and you own the truth and only you. That's the German "yes, but"
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#UnpopularOpinion: Open registration is an anti-pattern for the #Fediverse. A minimal human intervention like a personal invitation (to create a lightweight Web Of Trust approach) or approval by the admins is the better, more Fediverse way. This is my personal opinion. Please feel free to (respectfully) discuss in the replies. I might be wrong, I am open for criticism.
@jwildeboer That’s rich coming from a single user instance.
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#UnpopularOpinion: Open registration is an anti-pattern for the #Fediverse. A minimal human intervention like a personal invitation (to create a lightweight Web Of Trust approach) or approval by the admins is the better, more Fediverse way. This is my personal opinion. Please feel free to (respectfully) discuss in the replies. I might be wrong, I am open for criticism.
@jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
Not that unpopular among regional instance admins. Edmontonian Social was and is invite only. I see this as a necessity since it is trying to encourage people to meet face-to-face, and find build local connections. Invitations kinda necessitate people meeting in-person to join in the first place. I don't mind slow adoption as it helps me keep on top of moderation, as I learn the ropes of hosting a social platform.
Our members can create invitation codes once a day. This is to prevent malicious people from mass creating invites, thus opening bot accounts fast. Also new users are prevented from creating new invites for some time. It may seem excessive, but people I met mostly welcomed the thought put into deterring bots and spammers. -
And a more detailed, complicated topic: new accounts that have been opened for less than 48 hours (or longer, unsure what makes most sense) should be limited in following accounts. In that first period, every follow must be approved by the account they want to follow. After these 48 hours (or longer) that limitation could be lifted.
But these would be some kind of "script kiddie" limitations today, regarding bots or trolls.
Some kind of imposed automated old school BBS netiquette for human users (but at that days, somebody explained this person to person, why it's better not trigger immediately the noobs/newbie alarm and why you won't like to get roasted by flame throwers).
I think this works with games, but not with social media today. So we need more gamification and a user level system. Only if you are able to recite complicated spells are you allowed to post something or to ban somebody (am I talking about IRC???)
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@jwildeboer That’s rich coming from a single user instance.
@lil5 That's logical coming from an instance that is here since 2018 and explicitly being single user
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But these would be some kind of "script kiddie" limitations today, regarding bots or trolls.
Some kind of imposed automated old school BBS netiquette for human users (but at that days, somebody explained this person to person, why it's better not trigger immediately the noobs/newbie alarm and why you won't like to get roasted by flame throwers).
I think this works with games, but not with social media today. So we need more gamification and a user level system. Only if you are able to recite complicated spells are you allowed to post something or to ban somebody (am I talking about IRC???)
@echopapa Every time one of my posts gets mildly "successful", I get a bunch of accounts following me, typically from mastodon.social, typically being some AI generated profile picture of a pretty woman with 0 followers, created less than 24 hours ago, with a bio that reads some variation of "Just a simple girl looking for cool guys to talk to".
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#UnpopularOpinion: Open registration is an anti-pattern for the #Fediverse. A minimal human intervention like a personal invitation (to create a lightweight Web Of Trust approach) or approval by the admins is the better, more Fediverse way. This is my personal opinion. Please feel free to (respectfully) discuss in the replies. I might be wrong, I am open for criticism.
@jwildeboer I agree.
A short description of why you would like to join is quite normal when joining a specific community, why not replicate this online?
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@lil5 That's logical coming from an instance that is here since 2018 and explicitly being single user
@jwildeboer That’s exactly my point. How many requests have you had of people asking to join your server?
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#UnpopularOpinion: Open registration is an anti-pattern for the #Fediverse. A minimal human intervention like a personal invitation (to create a lightweight Web Of Trust approach) or approval by the admins is the better, more Fediverse way. This is my personal opinion. Please feel free to (respectfully) discuss in the replies. I might be wrong, I am open for criticism.
@jwildeboer I liked the approach good discussion boards used to have, with registration via approval, people having to interact and show who they are before they get access to features like direct messages or boards where sometimes personal information is mentioned. (Like many people I was pulled away from having to actively seek out people and discussions to interact with to places with algorithmic feeds and the illusion of interaction via an emoji. And I know, good moderation is a lot of work)
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@echopapa Every time one of my posts gets mildly "successful", I get a bunch of accounts following me, typically from mastodon.social, typically being some AI generated profile picture of a pretty woman with 0 followers, created less than 24 hours ago, with a bio that reads some variation of "Just a simple girl looking for cool guys to talk to".
I know that. There also some new followers per week with questionable accounts which follow me (Not only pretty women).Typically after some hours most of them are deleted.
Somewhat annoying, but I think easy onboarding will be necessary for the Fediverse for some further time. There is already the "which server IS best for me" problem.
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