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  3. every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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  • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

    every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

    benjo@androiddev.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #24

    @jacqueline "I even added tests (gen by ai ofc), so that proves code does what's intended!"

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    • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

      every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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      bedifferent@mastodon.social
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      #25

      @jacqueline They read the code but did they understand it which is also dogshit.

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      • tiempo@todon.euT tiempo@todon.eu

        @wall_e @jacqueline
        Engineering team --> servitude. I think the feeling into GenIA is the feeling of managing servitude

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        @Tiempo
        As I recall, the entire concept of management and most of its principles originated in chattel slavery. So "managing servitude" is a bit redundant, historically speaking.

        @wall_e @jacqueline

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        • wall_e@ioc.exchangeW wall_e@ioc.exchange

          @jacqueline I've been thinking about that "feeling good" part a lot lately...

          I wonder if folks like it because it makes everyone feel like a middle-manager managing an engineering team.
          Like you go from grinding out code yourself to spelling out high-level design decisions and constraints for your "team" to work on and then kinda sit back and supervise their work.

          Maybe makes you feel more important/powerful/valuable than before. So every attack against the premise of agentic LLM development becomes a personal threat to your imagined new position and status?

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          @wall_e @jacqueline it makes people feel like they have a servant. That's all. It's fulfilling the colonial fantasy of slave labor for everyone (who matters)

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          • sallystrange@eldritch.cafeS sallystrange@eldritch.cafe

            @wall_e @jacqueline it makes people feel like they have a servant. That's all. It's fulfilling the colonial fantasy of slave labor for everyone (who matters)

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            @SallyStrange @jacqueline considering shit like OpenWhip or BadClaude exist...yeah, you might be spot on

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            • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

              every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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              @jacqueline the worst part, they might have actually done that and did not realize themselves... 😞

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              • snapai@dragon.styleS snapai@dragon.style

                @Tiempo
                As I recall, the entire concept of management and most of its principles originated in chattel slavery. So "managing servitude" is a bit redundant, historically speaking.

                @wall_e @jacqueline

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                @Snapai @wall_e @jacqueline

                Yeah, sure. And Linux is actually GNU/Linux and so on. But you know, uses and customs 🤷‍♀️

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                • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                  every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                  @jacqueline If you know a few more AI guys you might level-up to "I let another agent review everything". You still might not want to smell that code. (Source: "trust me"). #agentic_coding #slop

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                  • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                    every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                    @jacqueline The response to the statement “I tried AI last week and it sucks” is always “Ah, but that was last week, the model that came out this week is amazing”
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                    • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                      every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                      @jacqueline they prefix it by "it's my work, AI assisted"

                      But then can't even answer simple questions.

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                      • wall_e@ioc.exchangeW wall_e@ioc.exchange

                        @jacqueline I've been thinking about that "feeling good" part a lot lately...

                        I wonder if folks like it because it makes everyone feel like a middle-manager managing an engineering team.
                        Like you go from grinding out code yourself to spelling out high-level design decisions and constraints for your "team" to work on and then kinda sit back and supervise their work.

                        Maybe makes you feel more important/powerful/valuable than before. So every attack against the premise of agentic LLM development becomes a personal threat to your imagined new position and status?

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                        @wall_e @jacqueline idk. to me, the "fantasy" of being middle management is having agency and getting paid well. Not just being responsible for a bunch of doofuses. Using AI "agents" while still being paid the same and just being told what to do like before doesn't really give me that "fantasy"...

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                        • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                          every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                          @jacqueline but what a good dogshit it is! Previously it was all bad dogshit.

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                          • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                            every pro ai discourse relies on the idea that u will never actually go and look at the results yourself and see that they're shit

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                            @jacqueline kinda like stage magic tricks?

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                            • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                              every ai booster's argument is "this slot machine that kills the world makes me feel good, so if u make me feel bad about it u must be wrong"

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                              @jacqueline yeah, gambling addicts say the same except they're much safer for the environment.

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                              • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                                it's industrial scale gish gallop

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                                @jacqueline

                                Gish Gallop As A Service

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                                • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                                  every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                                  @jacqueline ahh, but did you say "make no mistakes"? Common gotcha tbh

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