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  3. I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    @Scofisticated

    Yeah, the design isn't that bad. But I think you can find one on aliexpress for $6 without the pseudo science liner.

    Or often hats are on offer as handmade goods since they aren't that hard to make. (I am to lazy however. I would like to buy a hat ready to go.)

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    @futurebird @Scofisticated

    the hat itself is fine. the reflective lining will keep your head warmer. it's the claims about blocking radio signals that are wrong. there is a bunch of stuff like this on fartbook. for a while i was getting relentless ads for these LED face masks that are claimed to serve some kind of cosmetic purpose, but it's a good bet they do absolutely nothing but make you look pretty unhinged.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @oldclumsy_nowmad

      "well this hat protects you from Larry Ellison"

      ... is there a hat for that? I could... IDK I'm curious.

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      @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

      probably something like this?

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        @oldclumsy_nowmad @muddle

        There aren't any common waves that could hurt your brain.

        BUT

        If you want to know about something invisible, that most people don't know about that can impact your health in persistent mild but still bad ways? Look up "infrasound" --

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        @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social @muddle@infosec.exchange

        it depends on the strength and type of signal, and how close you are to the source. an unshielded magnetron from a microwave oven will definitely cook you, including your brain. that's why there are warning signs to not stand in front of microwave radio dishes.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

          The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

          (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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          @futurebird The silver also helps against werewolves.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            @oldclumsy_nowmad @Anke @muddle

            I wonder if one could channel the feeling many people have that "the world is slowly killing me somehow" into things like insisting that new highways don't send horrible rumbling sounds into surrounding neighborhoods?

            But CO2 is also invisible and no one wants to care about that...

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            @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social @Anke @muddle@infosec.exchange

            living next to a busy road is very stressful.

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            • heathen_cat@furs.socialH heathen_cat@furs.social

              @futurebird
              Sadly, between COVID and aging, there's probably going to be a wave of scam products in the future for brain fog. Nutropics, supplements, silver embedded clothing, just like copper was the woo-woo for arthritis.

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              @heathen_cat @futurebird

              There are already hundreds of "brain fog" and "shortness of breath" and "fatigue" snake oils bc of the combination of widespread and surging LC and official/bipartisan minimizing of LC. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                @futurebird I take it Wade Tillman was unavailable to provide an endorsement.

                #Watchmen #LookingGlass #Reflectatine

                Just a moment...

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                (watchmen.fandom.com)

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                • ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG ggmcbg@mstdn.plus

                  @futurebird

                  If I was just a skosh more evil I'd be selling all kinds of geegaws and doodads to the superstitious New-age Dark Age dipshits.

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                  @GGMcBG @futurebird It is immoral to let stupid people keep their money.

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                  • josh0@babka.socialJ josh0@babka.social

                    @futurebird I like mine better. Much more stylish.

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                    @josh0 @futurebird love some good ARSE swag!

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                    • draken@masto.nycD draken@masto.nyc

                      @futurebird
                      ...that price tag should be a dead giveaway as to their target demographic.

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                      @draken @futurebird

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                        The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                        (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                        @futurebird
                        Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa! Haahaahaa!

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                        • burnitdown@beige.partyB burnitdown@beige.party

                          @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social @muddle@infosec.exchange

                          it depends on the strength and type of signal, and how close you are to the source. an unshielded magnetron from a microwave oven will definitely cook you, including your brain. that's why there are warning signs to not stand in front of microwave radio dishes.

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                          @burnitdown @futurebird Its also interesting that different parts of the body are affected differently by microwaves. One of the more vulnerable parts are the eyes. So don't watch the food cook...

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                          • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                            @clayfoot @futurebird Do they sell chaps to go with their chafes?

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                            @linuxandyarn @futurebird Well that's just silly

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                            • M muddle@infosec.exchange

                              @adrake @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad I was thinking about that, and the fact that microwave ovens and wifi both use 2.4GHz. I did a quick search to try to find out the relative power levels. Ovens are easy: they're going to be around 800W~2kW. Unfortunately, the search results were suggesting WiFi pumps out 100--200W. Scary, if true. In fact, the actual power output is in the 20-100mW (*milli-*Watt) range.

                              I didn't really want to go there because it could play into the hands of those people that want to convince us that Wi-Fi (or 5G or whatever) is making us sick, but the 99.7% shielding figure is good to know. It would mean, roughly, that a 1KW microwave oven with proper shielding is pumping out around 10 times as much radiation as a local Wi-Fi router (1W compared to 100mW).

                              People pushing conspiracy theories about this is bad enough, but when search engines are promoting figures that are 3 orders of magnitude off, well... that's also very worrying. (and that's before we even get into LLMs...)

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                              @muddle @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad the FCC limit on 2.4GHz transmitters is 1W for sufficiently spread-spectrum devices (including WiFi). The maximum emissions in any particular direction are capped at a level equivalent to a 4W omnidirectional antenna (this equivalent measurement is called EIRP). Most wifi devices operate well below that level since it's rough on battery life.

                              Microwave ovens are limited by FDA to leaking a max of 5mW/cm^2 from any point on the oven's surface (measured 2in away). That works out to be a little below the power density you get from a worst-case WiFi transmitter at 3 inches away.

                              The 99.7 number is the claimed shielding performance of the hat, not any regulations.

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                                @oldclumsy_nowmad @futurebird I was going to look it up myself but realised the futility of it. IEEE is not a military organisation and real military standards tend to start with MIL, I think. Even if not, that whole line at the bottom screams fake.

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                                @muddle @oldclumsy_nowmad @futurebird IEEE 299 is about standard measurement practice

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                                • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

                                  @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad @muddle RF *can* hurt you if its high enough power, but that’s generally limited to labs and microwave ovens, not what’s emitted by cell phones

                                  …or anywhere outdoors. you might get a sunburn

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                                  @cinebox @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad @muddle or worse...

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                                  • adrake@sfba.socialA adrake@sfba.social

                                    @muddle @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad the FCC limit on 2.4GHz transmitters is 1W for sufficiently spread-spectrum devices (including WiFi). The maximum emissions in any particular direction are capped at a level equivalent to a 4W omnidirectional antenna (this equivalent measurement is called EIRP). Most wifi devices operate well below that level since it's rough on battery life.

                                    Microwave ovens are limited by FDA to leaking a max of 5mW/cm^2 from any point on the oven's surface (measured 2in away). That works out to be a little below the power density you get from a worst-case WiFi transmitter at 3 inches away.

                                    The 99.7 number is the claimed shielding performance of the hat, not any regulations.

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                                    @adrake @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad ah, I misread what you said about 99.7% initially. I didn't realise you were talking about the hat. So I guess I overestimated the effectiveness of the shielding and, hence, also overestimated the leakage

                                    I also did look up some more reputable info on max wireless tx power and was surprised to find that in some countries it can even go up to 4W (which tallies with what you said):

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                                    Taken together, wifi and ovens seem to be roughly comparable rather than there being the orders-of-magnitude differences that I expected (with ovens emitting more radiation).

                                    Thanks for the correction. I guess I'll have to retire my "but microwaves leak more energy" argument when dealing with (literal) tinfoil hatters...

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                                      The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                                      (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                                      RE: https://sauropods.win/@futurebird/116342201450394205

                                      Now, I'm not in favor of spam / scam callers...

                                      But, I somehow feel less bad about the idea of someone selling snake oil brand snake oil clearly labeling the contents as snake oil (even if there are some outlandish claims) and letting fools and their money be parted?

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        @oldclumsy_nowmad @Anke @muddle

                                        I'm interested in noise pollution and light pollution. Light pollution is horrible for insects. (and birds) Noise pollution is bad for people.

                                        We could have less loud, dark at night (but still safe) cities and towns.

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                                        @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad @Anke @muddle

                                        Light pollution is bad for plants as well. Let’s see if I can find that link.

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                                        Street light choice matters: impacts of presence and color on wild plants

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                                        • samanthajanesmith@lgbtqia.spaceS samanthajanesmith@lgbtqia.space

                                          @burnitdown @futurebird Its also interesting that different parts of the body are affected differently by microwaves. One of the more vulnerable parts are the eyes. So don't watch the food cook...

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                                          @SamanthaJaneSmith @futurebird the shielding is there so you don't cook yourself at all. without it, you would need to stand dozens of metres away to operate the microwave.

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