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  3. Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

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  • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

    Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

    'A Green victory is easily the worst outcome'....

    NO!!!!: a ReformUK Ltd win would have been the worst outcome... the very idea that Labour could see Hannah Spencer's victory as worse than Matthew Goodwin & Reform winning pretty much sums up the problem with the Labour Party!

    #politics #Greens #GortonAnd Denton

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    @ChrisMayLA6 @AndrewHenry centrists always say things like this. Here in Ontario, Canada when the Liberal party was about to loose the election instead of fighting the right wing Conservstives they attacked the (slightly) left party, NDP, that was leading in the polls. Three elections later the right is still in power and you basically can’t see a doctor anymore. Sigh.

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    • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

      Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

      'A Green victory is easily the worst outcome'....

      NO!!!!: a ReformUK Ltd win would have been the worst outcome... the very idea that Labour could see Hannah Spencer's victory as worse than Matthew Goodwin & Reform winning pretty much sums up the problem with the Labour Party!

      #politics #Greens #GortonAnd Denton

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      #42

      @ChrisMayLA6 they're not going to change, we just need to move on without Labour.

      #Labour #UKPOL #UKPOLITICS #Greens #GPEW

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      • gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG gotofritz@hachyderm.io

        @ChrisMayLA6

        Clearly talking from Labour's POV - the Greens are eating their lunch, Reform are eating the Tories' (broad simplifcation).

        The Greens may end up replacing Labour, or at least this is their fear

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        @gotofritz @ChrisMayLA6 their fear, our hope.

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        • pa27@mastodon.socialP pa27@mastodon.social

          @ChrisMayLA6 They way Labour and the others are taking pops at the greens is good news - shows they are worried. Bring on proportional representation and a multi party system, with whipping outlawed. Oh, and make it a republic.

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          @pa27 @ChrisMayLA6

          #starmer will be pooping his national front knickers.
          FPTP normally works in favour of the larger parties
          (I don't really understand why - possibly because smaller parties eat votes that the second in line needs)

          With honest social media in the mix it might just be that we can turn the country round. I would really love to see honest politics.

          Since I remember it has been bicker, bicker, tit-for-tat, backbiting, see-saw cross-party absolute SHIT.

          #green for hope

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          • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

            Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

            'A Green victory is easily the worst outcome'....

            NO!!!!: a ReformUK Ltd win would have been the worst outcome... the very idea that Labour could see Hannah Spencer's victory as worse than Matthew Goodwin & Reform winning pretty much sums up the problem with the Labour Party!

            #politics #Greens #GortonAnd Denton

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            #45

            @ChrisMayLA6 plus ça change - whenever Caroline Lucas was defending her Brighton Pavilion seat, Labour threw kitchen sink at trying to beat her

            When I was growing up in a Labour household in the 60s & 70s, it was always said that nothing unites Labour like the fight against a Tory

            Clearly now, nothing unites Labour like the fight against a Socialist - or, indeed, anyone with a shred of principle

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            • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

              @ChrisMayLA6 they're not going to change, we just need to move on without Labour.

              #Labour #UKPOL #UKPOLITICS #Greens #GPEW

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              @Lazarou @ChrisMayLA6 we do but we also need to learn the lessons of 2017-19 and how to do what we can to immunise our movement against the establishment rearguard, which already started with the Fuerhage & Bad Enoch seeking to delegitimise Hannah’s win and lay the groundwork for more voter suppression

              If Reform get anywhere near power in 2029, I guarantee the Green Party will be proscribed as a terrorist organisation

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              • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

                'A Green victory is easily the worst outcome'....

                NO!!!!: a ReformUK Ltd win would have been the worst outcome... the very idea that Labour could see Hannah Spencer's victory as worse than Matthew Goodwin & Reform winning pretty much sums up the problem with the Labour Party!

                #politics #Greens #GortonAnd Denton

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                #47

                @ChrisMayLA6 I hate green parties, and I endorse this message.

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                • simon318ppm@mastodon.sdf.orgS simon318ppm@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @Lazarou @ChrisMayLA6 we do but we also need to learn the lessons of 2017-19 and how to do what we can to immunise our movement against the establishment rearguard, which already started with the Fuerhage & Bad Enoch seeking to delegitimise Hannah’s win and lay the groundwork for more voter suppression

                  If Reform get anywhere near power in 2029, I guarantee the Green Party will be proscribed as a terrorist organisation

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                  #48

                  @Simon318ppm @ChrisMayLA6 we only have to look across the Atlantic to see what they want to do to us.

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