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Augmented Reality filters are coming to the fediverse, first with Loops and soon Pixelfed!

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  • anatolegc@piaille.frA anatolegc@piaille.fr

    @moralapostel @dansup @kdekooter Are AR filters harmful by any mean (directly or not? This is a real question

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    @anatolegc Yes, in my opinion it does. It copies "trends" from addictive platforms. The Fediverse should strictly refuse to do this. What comes next? An algorithm?
    @dansup @kdekooter

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    • moralapostel@troet.cafeM moralapostel@troet.cafe

      @anatolegc Yes, in my opinion it does. It copies "trends" from addictive platforms. The Fediverse should strictly refuse to do this. What comes next? An algorithm?
      @dansup @kdekooter

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      @moralapostel @anatolegc @kdekooter How is an AR filter harmful, when you don't need to even finish uploading the video to Loops, you can literally record a video then save it and share it to a specific person outside of Loops.

      It's not that different from editing a photo and sharing it. That happens a lot. Where is the harm?

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      • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

        @moralapostel @anatolegc @kdekooter How is an AR filter harmful, when you don't need to even finish uploading the video to Loops, you can literally record a video then save it and share it to a specific person outside of Loops.

        It's not that different from editing a photo and sharing it. That happens a lot. Where is the harm?

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        @dansup Why should we engage in the same nonsense as on the platforms we wish to leave behind?
        @anatolegc @kdekooter

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        • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

          @moralapostel @anatolegc @kdekooter How is an AR filter harmful, when you don't need to even finish uploading the video to Loops, you can literally record a video then save it and share it to a specific person outside of Loops.

          It's not that different from editing a photo and sharing it. That happens a lot. Where is the harm?

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          @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

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          • moralapostel@troet.cafeM moralapostel@troet.cafe

            @dansup Why should we engage in the same nonsense as on the platforms we wish to leave behind?
            @anatolegc @kdekooter

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            @moralapostel @anatolegc @kdekooter Powerful and popular features shouldn't be proprietary.

            They should belong to the people.

            You might not use them, does that mean nobody should too? Even if we build an ethical implementation?

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            • kdekooter@mastodon.socialK kdekooter@mastodon.social

              @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

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              Thanks s lot @kdekooter
              Your explanation hits the nail on the head.

              @dansup @anatolegc

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              • kdekooter@mastodon.socialK kdekooter@mastodon.social

                @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

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                @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc what tricks??

                There is literally no difference if you edit a photo to add a filter or overlay text/stickers.

                I really don't understand why you are calling this stupid and childish, its just a fun feature, and one that isn't required.

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                • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                  Augmented Reality filters are coming to the fediverse, first with Loops and soon Pixelfed!

                  #Loops #LoopsDev #ARFilters

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                  @dansup Nope. Unnecessary and counter to original mission. Just my $.02

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                  • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                    @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc what tricks??

                    There is literally no difference if you edit a photo to add a filter or overlay text/stickers.

                    I really don't understand why you are calling this stupid and childish, its just a fun feature, and one that isn't required.

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                    @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc Just stating my aesthetical opinion.

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                    • kdekooter@mastodon.socialK kdekooter@mastodon.social

                      @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

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                      @kdekooter @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc how reactionnary of you

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                      • kdekooter@mastodon.socialK kdekooter@mastodon.social

                        @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc Just stating my aesthetical opinion.

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                        @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc I respect that, but can you not see the comparisons to editing a photo before uploading it?

                        This is just a fun way to add some flair to your video, we only have a few filters like sunglasses and dog ears, I don't see the harm in that.

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                        • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                          @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc what tricks??

                          There is literally no difference if you edit a photo to add a filter or overlay text/stickers.

                          I really don't understand why you are calling this stupid and childish, its just a fun feature, and one that isn't required.

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                          @dansup @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc

                          AR =/= AI. We've had AR filters as long as Snapchat has existed and it was always done on-device. Without that goofy dog filter I probably wouldn't be with my partner of seven years. Those were simpler times.

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                            @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc I respect that, but can you not see the comparisons to editing a photo before uploading it?

                            This is just a fun way to add some flair to your video, we only have a few filters like sunglasses and dog ears, I don't see the harm in that.

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                            @dansup Well, it's an opinion that I'm expressing here. No more, no less. I may have a different aesthetic sensibility, and I also think that trying to copy addictive platforms is not the right way to go. That's how one thing will lead to another in the future... that's my concern.
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                            • kdekooter@mastodon.socialK kdekooter@mastodon.social

                              @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

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                              @kdekooter @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc Viewers should have a toggle to enable or disable AR effects on each video. We need to fight trickery and combat disinformation. Insta-bans for anyone trying to hide their acne!

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                              • moralapostel@troet.cafeM moralapostel@troet.cafe

                                @dansup Uninformed people all over the world may like to vote for fascists. Should we do it anyway?
                                Yes, it's a bad comparison. But in my opinion, it illustrates well why you shouldn't do everything that people like.
                                @kdekooter

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                                @moralapostel
                                Well, that escalated quickly. Dansup, you literally Hitler! πŸ˜„

                                @dansup @kdekooter

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                                • ditol@freiburg.socialD ditol@freiburg.social

                                  @moralapostel
                                  Well, that escalated quickly. Dansup, you literally Hitler! πŸ˜„

                                  @dansup @kdekooter

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                                  @ditol That's definitely not what I said. That's what you're making of it, because you obviously didn't read and understand my text properly.@dansup @kdekooter

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                                  • moralapostel@troet.cafeM moralapostel@troet.cafe

                                    @anatolegc Yes, in my opinion it does. It copies "trends" from addictive platforms. The Fediverse should strictly refuse to do this. What comes next? An algorithm?
                                    @dansup @kdekooter

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                                    @moralapostel
                                    The entire Fediverse consists of copies of addictive platforms minus their addictive and harmful features. I don't see how those AR filters are supposed to be harmful.

                                    Thry are stupid and fun. Why not let people have some stupid fun on fediverse? Oh, I'm writing this to someone with the nickname Moralapostel. Never mind. πŸ™‚

                                    @anatolegc @dansup @kdekooter

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                                    • cenbe@techhub.socialC cenbe@techhub.social

                                      @dansup Brilliant use of programmers' time. The really important stuff.

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                                      @Cenbe @dansup this was just rude and unnecessary.

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                                      • ditol@freiburg.socialD ditol@freiburg.social

                                        @moralapostel
                                        The entire Fediverse consists of copies of addictive platforms minus their addictive and harmful features. I don't see how those AR filters are supposed to be harmful.

                                        Thry are stupid and fun. Why not let people have some stupid fun on fediverse? Oh, I'm writing this to someone with the nickname Moralapostel. Never mind. πŸ™‚

                                        @anatolegc @dansup @kdekooter

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                                        @ditol @anatolegc Ah, very good. Now comes the distraction from the topic with my chosen profile name. πŸ˜‹
                                        @dansup @kdekooter

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                                        • kdekooter@mastodon.socialK kdekooter@mastodon.social

                                          @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

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                                          @kdekooter
                                          Why do you consider them psychological tricks?

                                          (I agree on the stupid, childish and tastless part, but this is so extremely subjective that I myself wouldn't care what I say in this regard. People should be allowed to have fun with some stupid, tasteless and childish fun.)

                                          @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc

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