In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web.
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In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web.
While they packaged it as a lot of "AI" talk what their whole approach of decontextualizing information, of taking away links to sources and instead producing some LLM generated response means is that they want to establish a new abstraction layer on the web. Where Zuckerberg with his Metaverse failed Google is starting the next attack: Your website, your work no longer matters.
Well it matters as (unpaid) raw material for their synthetic text extruders but not as cultural artifact you can share with others.
This is a literal revolution but one against the participatory web, against us: The goal is to take away the web and guide people into Google's abstraction on top of it. An abstraction they control and moderate. It's about monopolizing access to information.
If you care about the web, about people's ability to participate in it as more than mere passive consumers, this needs to be taken seriously. De-Googlifying your mental apparatus becomes more urgent today. Find other search engines, don't use their browser. Or wake up in a slopified AOL kind of environment.
@tante ok so we're at war with ... (checks notes) Google? Not Meta? Not Microsoft? Not Amazon? Not Oracle? Not Palantir? Not Apple? Not Tesla? Not X?
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@tante ok so we're at war with ... (checks notes) Google? Not Meta? Not Microsoft? Not Amazon? Not Oracle? Not Palantir? Not Apple? Not Tesla? Not X?
@tante I think we're gonna need a bigger boat
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@tante ok so we're at war with ... (checks notes) Google? Not Meta? Not Microsoft? Not Amazon? Not Oracle? Not Palantir? Not Apple? Not Tesla? Not X?
@codinghorror why not all of them?
This is not a "just google is bad" kind of thing. It's just that the one company that structures most people's access to the web decided to change the contract unilaterally. I think that that specific thing needs highlighting while also burning Meta and X and all them to the ground. We can contain multitudes (of ways of defending access to information, expression and connection)
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@codinghorror why not all of them?
This is not a "just google is bad" kind of thing. It's just that the one company that structures most people's access to the web decided to change the contract unilaterally. I think that that specific thing needs highlighting while also burning Meta and X and all them to the ground. We can contain multitudes (of ways of defending access to information, expression and connection)
@tante why not all of us? aren't humans the original mistake?
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@FrutigerAero00 @tante I think so too. And that also means they control access to everything you can do and know online. And that's frightening.
@misjavanlaatum @tante Exactly. But if we still can access the web the same way we are doing right now, there will be hope.
What I fear most are the laws that could be implemented that will (and are) limiting how we interact with the internet. The moment the freedom to use internet is prosecuted (which is happening) we are gonna be fucked haha -
@tante why not all of us? aren't humans the original mistake?
@codinghorror corporations aren't humanity jeff
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@tante why not all of us? aren't humans the original mistake?
@tante I feel like no one actually wants to take full responsibility here. It's always something else, someone else that's the problem, isn't it? Never us. It's them. They're the problem... right?
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@tante I feel like no one actually wants to take full responsibility here. It's always something else, someone else that's the problem, isn't it? Never us. It's them. They're the problem... right?
@tante I think we can do significantly better than this. But what do I know. Take my advice and do as you please.
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@tante why not all of us? aren't humans the original mistake?
@codinghorror I don't follow that train of thought to be honest. Where does this "humans are the problem" angle come from? I am talking about a specific move by a monopolist and a) the ways that people might try to protect themselves and b) ways of using collective power (as in politics) to protect the greater good
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In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web.
While they packaged it as a lot of "AI" talk what their whole approach of decontextualizing information, of taking away links to sources and instead producing some LLM generated response means is that they want to establish a new abstraction layer on the web. Where Zuckerberg with his Metaverse failed Google is starting the next attack: Your website, your work no longer matters.
Well it matters as (unpaid) raw material for their synthetic text extruders but not as cultural artifact you can share with others.
This is a literal revolution but one against the participatory web, against us: The goal is to take away the web and guide people into Google's abstraction on top of it. An abstraction they control and moderate. It's about monopolizing access to information.
If you care about the web, about people's ability to participate in it as more than mere passive consumers, this needs to be taken seriously. De-Googlifying your mental apparatus becomes more urgent today. Find other search engines, don't use their browser. Or wake up in a slopified AOL kind of environment.
Information and data are the new means of production, and Google and many other Big Tech companies have spent decades building monopolies to act as the paid gatekeeper.
Buy a set of hard copy maps and encyclopaedias before they no longer exist.
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In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web.
While they packaged it as a lot of "AI" talk what their whole approach of decontextualizing information, of taking away links to sources and instead producing some LLM generated response means is that they want to establish a new abstraction layer on the web. Where Zuckerberg with his Metaverse failed Google is starting the next attack: Your website, your work no longer matters.
Well it matters as (unpaid) raw material for their synthetic text extruders but not as cultural artifact you can share with others.
This is a literal revolution but one against the participatory web, against us: The goal is to take away the web and guide people into Google's abstraction on top of it. An abstraction they control and moderate. It's about monopolizing access to information.
If you care about the web, about people's ability to participate in it as more than mere passive consumers, this needs to be taken seriously. De-Googlifying your mental apparatus becomes more urgent today. Find other search engines, don't use their browser. Or wake up in a slopified AOL kind of environment.
@tante welcome to the age of ultra processed web! We already have ultra processed food and it worked out so well (lol)
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@tante I think we can do significantly better than this. But what do I know. Take my advice and do as you please.
@codinghorror Look, I'd love to take your advice into consideration, I just don't fully get what you are going for
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@codinghorror I don't follow that train of thought to be honest. Where does this "humans are the problem" angle come from? I am talking about a specific move by a monopolist and a) the ways that people might try to protect themselves and b) ways of using collective power (as in politics) to protect the greater good
@tante @codinghorror you can't analyze this as a specific move by a monopolist in isolation from everything else happening
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@codinghorror I don't follow that train of thought to be honest. Where does this "humans are the problem" angle come from? I am talking about a specific move by a monopolist and a) the ways that people might try to protect themselves and b) ways of using collective power (as in politics) to protect the greater good
@tante it just depends if you want to be effective or not. See https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116606215038359341 .. I ain't the boss of you, nor do I pretend to be. Do whatever you want.
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@codinghorror corporations aren't humanity jeff
@tante@jackeric @codinghorror @tante Corporations don't act. It's always humans within or behind them.
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@tante @codinghorror you can't analyze this as a specific move by a monopolist in isolation from everything else happening
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@codinghorror Look, I'd love to take your advice into consideration, I just don't fully get what you are going for
@tante pretty sure I made it quite clear here https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116606215038359341 I can definitely keep typing if ya want me to
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@jackeric @codinghorror @tante Corporations don't act. It's always humans within or behind them.
@goedelchen @codinghorror @tante Better to act against the corporation itself if at all possible, rather than the people leading them - we can't all be Luigi
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@tante pretty sure I made it quite clear here https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116606215038359341 I can definitely keep typing if ya want me to
@tante (protip: ya don't, really. KILL META NOW)
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@goedelchen @codinghorror @tante Better to act against the corporation itself if at all possible, rather than the people leading them - we can't all be Luigi
@jackeric @goedelchen @tante only the very best of us can be Luigi.
