<![CDATA[In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web.]]>In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web.

While they packaged it as a lot of "AI" talk what their whole approach of decontextualizing information, of taking away links to sources and instead producing some LLM generated response means is that they want to establish a new abstraction layer on the web. Where Zuckerberg with his Metaverse failed Google is starting the next attack: Your website, your work no longer matters.

Well it matters as (unpaid) raw material for their synthetic text extruders but not as cultural artifact you can share with others.

This is a literal revolution but one against the participatory web, against us: The goal is to take away the web and guide people into Google's abstraction on top of it. An abstraction they control and moderate. It's about monopolizing access to information.

If you care about the web, about people's ability to participate in it as more than mere passive consumers, this needs to be taken seriously. De-Googlifying your mental apparatus becomes more urgent today. Find other search engines, don't use their browser. Or wake up in a slopified AOL kind of environment.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/6a2f2479-3cd8-43dd-9109-f1d4d24df438/in-yesterday-s-io-keynote-google-declared-war-on-the-remnants-of-the-web.RSS for NodeSat, 06 Jun 2026 03:25:15 GMTWed, 20 May 2026 08:03:11 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:53:01 GMT]]>@jackpearse @tante our company doesn't have the privilege to suspend our google dependencies.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/lritter/statuses/116606761825839545https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/lritter/statuses/116606761825839545Wed, 20 May 2026 11:53:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:52:31 GMT]]>@cschack @tante Interesting! Haven't heard of them before. Will have a look later.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116606759815629153https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116606759815629153Wed, 20 May 2026 11:52:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:52:11 GMT]]>@lritter @tante Investors shot on the biggest stack. And as Kim Stanley Robinson teaches us in "New York *2140*", we are those one in power. And willingly don't use it.

The easiest way to fuck investors is to simply stop consuming the invested good. But everyone. And for at least 4 weeks. If Corporations understand that customers withdraw from their service for more than Months - they panic. Because the have running costs.

But we silly monks simply don't utilize our power.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://nrw.social/users/jackpearse/statuses/116606758510399925https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://nrw.social/users/jackpearse/statuses/116606758510399925Wed, 20 May 2026 11:52:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:51:20 GMT]]>@tante this wont afect China or Russia. Google owns decilliins of $$$ on fines for Russia

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/PlantbasedChe/statuses/116606755187043259https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/PlantbasedChe/statuses/116606755187043259Wed, 20 May 2026 11:51:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:46:57 GMT]]>@thepwnicorn @tante There's Mojeek, which is believe is based in the UK. They don't get data from either Google or Bing

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/cschack/statuses/116606737945970175https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/users/cschack/statuses/116606737945970175Wed, 20 May 2026 11:46:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:40:54 GMT]]>@tante Yea I have been working towards degoogling for a few months now. This takes some real focus and effort, and some investment which money is tighter than ever now!!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116355159532560980/statuses/116606714158186561https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116355159532560980/statuses/116606714158186561Wed, 20 May 2026 11:40:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:30:00 GMT]]>@wuppi @tante @kagihq
To bad they're not even planning to make the browser available for Android.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://queer.group/users/kleines_z/statuses/116606671272275198https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://queer.group/users/kleines_z/statuses/116606671272275198Wed, 20 May 2026 11:30:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:28:07 GMT]]>@tante sure hope we get a good solution because if Google and Microsoft decide they don't want to allow access to current alternatives anymore, we are in trouble.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116606663889946456https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116606663889946456Wed, 20 May 2026 11:28:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:26:19 GMT]]>@thepwnicorn there is an EU initiative between quant and ecosia which isn't there yet. But engines using Google's index do so far still return links. So not ideal but better than where Google is going

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tldr.nettime.org/users/tante/statuses/116606656801802757https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tldr.nettime.org/users/tante/statuses/116606656801802757Wed, 20 May 2026 11:26:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:25:34 GMT]]>@coreysnipes @codinghorror @tante would love Jeff to learn focus fire doesn’t mean sniping others.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://glammr.us/users/platypus/statuses/116606653837813355https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://glammr.us/users/platypus/statuses/116606653837813355Wed, 20 May 2026 11:25:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:25:21 GMT]]>@tribactam @tante But this guy might have some hints (his text just arrived this morning here): https://uk.sagepub.com/en-gb/eur/the-political-economy-of-communication/book231852

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116606653024169360https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116606653024169360Wed, 20 May 2026 11:25:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:24:49 GMT]]>@tribactam @tante You're up against this: https://www.asc.upenn.edu/news-events/news/largest-quantitative-synthesis-date-reveals-what-predicts-human-behavior-and-how-change-it

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116606650909645255https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116606650909645255Wed, 20 May 2026 11:24:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:24:11 GMT]]>@tante The really weird "Fediverse telepathy" effect at work here (more correctly C. G. Jung's synchronicity) is that I found myself writing in a text file last night, before the story we all saw broke: "Gradually grind away the Google" in relation to moving away from GMail for my private offsite backup alerts. There are tells (not conclusive proof) that they are illegally sharing training on private email content with Meta in violation of the GDPR and UK DPA.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116606648430510560https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116175731239673526/statuses/116606648430510560Wed, 20 May 2026 11:24:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:22:18 GMT]]>@tante those in control of information control power and given our current societal situation this not just bad for the web, it will affect all facets of life.

I just reread Animal Farm and the parallels are too close for comfort.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cyberplace.social/ap/users/115588296584761431/statuses/116606641024021924https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cyberplace.social/ap/users/115588296584761431/statuses/116606641024021924Wed, 20 May 2026 11:22:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:21:49 GMT]]>@tante which alternative search engines have an independent search index that does not rely on Google or Microsoft/Bing?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116606639121402603https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/thepwnicorn/statuses/116606639121402603Wed, 20 May 2026 11:21:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 11:13:29 GMT]]>@tante exactly that. Never used a google service (I know of as many pages just load these even with blockers activated) since 10 years as they became worse and worse. But all the time I missed something in case of search engine. Finally found @kagihq and are happy now. No more nonsense/ads/seo.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/wuppi/statuses/116606606329375366https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.tchncs.de/users/wuppi/statuses/116606606329375366Wed, 20 May 2026 11:13:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:45:35 GMT]]>@codinghorror @tante It's actually all of them... despite we are not really at war with them, because they need us to survive. So we are more at war with ourselves to actually care about the stuff we do and use every day.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/feyter/statuses/116606496641351535https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/feyter/statuses/116606496641351535Wed, 20 May 2026 10:45:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:30:13 GMT]]>@tribactam

Gopher was the ancestor of WWW.

Having a search functionnality, I used it in ancient times to look for documents on Internet.

The main advantage is that it is distributed.

Link Preview Image
Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia

favicon

(en.wikipedia.org)

@tante

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.aquilenet.fr/users/tanavit/statuses/116606436196019343https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.aquilenet.fr/users/tanavit/statuses/116606436196019343Wed, 20 May 2026 10:30:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:28:37 GMT]]>@tante
"De-Googling" our minds is urgent. They are using the open web as free raw material for AI, turning active participants into passive consumers in a closed, monopolized digital environment. Wake up before we end up in a sloppy AOL-style walled garden.
🦁🦁🦁

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116512071444209659/statuses/116606429950334160https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116512071444209659/statuses/116606429950334160Wed, 20 May 2026 10:28:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:27:56 GMT]]>@codinghorror @tante
US BT

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://veganism.social/users/marc_eu/statuses/116606427218395218https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://veganism.social/users/marc_eu/statuses/116606427218395218Wed, 20 May 2026 10:27:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:23:46 GMT]]>@tanavit @tante

website idea - can handle this.

Non-techie (that's me) and I'm not trying to be snarky - what is a gopher protocol...? - where would I even start?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116256575994654827/statuses/116606410871749911https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116256575994654827/statuses/116606410871749911Wed, 20 May 2026 10:23:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:20:27 GMT]]>@tribactam

Why not having a web site with a curated list of your preferred trusted web sites ?

Or revive the Gopher protocol ?

@tante

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.aquilenet.fr/users/tanavit/statuses/116606397818244173https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.aquilenet.fr/users/tanavit/statuses/116606397818244173Wed, 20 May 2026 10:20:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:17:16 GMT]]>@tante I think that this needs to be more widely known and it poses the question: how can you communicate this clearly to lay-people.

Here we are in a kind of echo-chamber with a techie bias. Many valid points are raised about subjects with broad impact, but I realise that a lot of the language and concepts are difficult if you are not experienced in the topic.

Note that this is not a plea to dumb down. If the message is so important, can we amplify it and spread it using language which a non-tech person would get without corrupting the meaning?

This applies to using the fediverse as well - how can it be communicated and made more accessible?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116256575994654827/statuses/116606385297883652https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/116256575994654827/statuses/116606385297883652Wed, 20 May 2026 10:17:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to In Yesterday's IO Keynote Google declared war on the remnants of the Web. on Wed, 20 May 2026 10:05:11 GMT]]>@codinghorror I am 100% on board with you. I've shot against all those companies, have advised policians and parliaments to take action against them.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tldr.nettime.org/users/tante/statuses/116606337782469160https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tldr.nettime.org/users/tante/statuses/116606337782469160Wed, 20 May 2026 10:05:11 GMT