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What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

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  • pietervdvn@en.osm.townP pietervdvn@en.osm.town

    @bradr Great news, but this is _only_ aboute electricity production. Is there a graph with _all_ energy and fossil use? I.e. including motor traffic (which still runs on oil), heavy industries and chemical processes?

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    @pietervdvn This was the comment I was about to make. We're doing ourselves a disservice every time there's progress on electricity generation and it is announced as all energy being transitioned from fossil to green. Electricity is the easier task of the two energy challenges - the hard one is fuel @bradr

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    • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

      What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

      Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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      @bradr I needed to see this. Thank you.

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      • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

        @pietervdvn This was the comment I was about to make. We're doing ourselves a disservice every time there's progress on electricity generation and it is announced as all energy being transitioned from fossil to green. Electricity is the easier task of the two energy challenges - the hard one is fuel @bradr

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        @malte @pietervdvn

        And yet, electrification of industrial heat processes (or rather greenification, since it's a mix of electrification, process changes, and efficiency increases) continues apace. It's not all or nothing, but it's also not nothing.

        https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/industrials/our-insights/tackling-heat-electrification-to-decarbonize-industry

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        • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

          What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

          Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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          @bradr @gnoll110
          It's almost always Ember delivering the BS.
          Energy use is more than electricity, and there is much more to be done before Spain has an energy transformation.
          Spain is fossil fuelled + 50% oil consumption.
          check for yourself at iea.org:
          https://www.iea.org/countries/spain
          or climateactiontracker.org:
          https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/eu/

          Yes, there's progress, but too little, too late.
          #spain #climate #fossilfuels

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          • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

            @bradr @gnoll110
            It's almost always Ember delivering the BS.
            Energy use is more than electricity, and there is much more to be done before Spain has an energy transformation.
            Spain is fossil fuelled + 50% oil consumption.
            check for yourself at iea.org:
            https://www.iea.org/countries/spain
            or climateactiontracker.org:
            https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/eu/

            Yes, there's progress, but too little, too late.
            #spain #climate #fossilfuels

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            @gusseting @bradr

            It is an important trend. Electrical power needs to be cheap and abundant, to lead other activities to transition away from fossil carbon.

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            • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

              What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

              Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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              @bradr what happened in 2014 to cause such forceful temporary stagnation? 😎

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              • C carl@chaos.social

                @Axomamma what is hindering it? @thegarbagebird

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                @carl You cannot seriously be asking.

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                • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                  @malte @pietervdvn

                  And yet, electrification of industrial heat processes (or rather greenification, since it's a mix of electrification, process changes, and efficiency increases) continues apace. It's not all or nothing, but it's also not nothing.

                  https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/industrials/our-insights/tackling-heat-electrification-to-decarbonize-industry

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                  @bradr The point is that these changes are both unaccounted for in these news and also much slower changing. In worst case we ignore that huge area of energy transition. @pietervdvn

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                  • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA axomamma@mastodon.online

                    @carl You cannot seriously be asking.

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                    @Axomamma I am. I do not live in the US

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                    • C carl@chaos.social

                      @Axomamma I am. I do not live in the US

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                      @carl You must be living in a cave. Maybe get out more.

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                      • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA axomamma@mastodon.online

                        @carl You must be living in a cave. Maybe get out more.

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                        @Axomamma I like the fairy tale “The Emperor’s new clothes”. Huge fan of the little kid’s remark. Completely valid and simple yet no adult could answer.

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                        • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                          What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

                          Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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                          @bradr
                          Good good.
                          How much of that electricity is importation of neighbohours thought ?

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                          • pietervdvn@en.osm.townP pietervdvn@en.osm.town

                            @bradr Great news, but this is _only_ aboute electricity production. Is there a graph with _all_ energy and fossil use? I.e. including motor traffic (which still runs on oil), heavy industries and chemical processes?

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                            @pietervdvn

                            @bradr ou can find some figures about that in pour world in data, world wide, a developed country uses on average 80% of not electricity, and it does not change fast.

                            Low carbon production is good, but it will nyo solve anything if the usage switches to it fast, and it will be totally useless if there is no stopping in emitting high carbon sources, because this causes harm at scale.

                            So we always should watch and denounce the #greenwashing behind some good news, and be careful. Things are not evolving fast enough right now, and delaying the change is also making it harder to achieve and adding to the toll.

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                            • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                              @pietervdvn This was the comment I was about to make. We're doing ourselves a disservice every time there's progress on electricity generation and it is announced as all energy being transitioned from fossil to green. Electricity is the easier task of the two energy challenges - the hard one is fuel @bradr

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                              @malte

                              @pietervdvn @bradr an other fun fact showing that installed capacity is still not transformed to getting rid of hi GHG emissions despite a big room to do better.

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                              • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                                What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

                                Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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                                @bradr
                                I want to boost this more. Mastodon needs a turbo-boost

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