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  • kimeragupta@todon.euK kimeragupta@todon.eu

    @bradr and that is why the EU wants to destroy this process

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    @KimeraGupta @bradr That makes zero sense: When you can no longer buy solar panels you keep producing electricity with the current ones, for many years; while the moment you can't buy fossil fuels you stop generating energy because they're single use. You burn it and it's gone. And as the skyrocketing fuel prices have shown us, that's a critical dependency.

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    • gim@lou.ltG gim@lou.lt

      @mbpaz @gekko3k @bradr I don't think impossible is the right word here. This is Poland's energy mix over 20years (and look at Spain's energy mix around 2020 for comparison).

      Btw, Poland's goal is not to reach 50%, but to produce the majority of energy from renewable sources.

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      @gim @gekko3k @bradr Coal usage for electricity generation in Spain is exactly zero now - no coal power stations remain.

      Roughly 40-50% actual (not installed) generation is wind+solar, depending on the weather, ~15% nuclear, 10-20% hydro.

      The major remaining polluting source is gas (in combined cycle stations), hard to replace for technical reasons. Also about 1% total energy comes from diesel generators in islands.

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      • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

        @gim @gekko3k @bradr Coal usage for electricity generation in Spain is exactly zero now - no coal power stations remain.

        Roughly 40-50% actual (not installed) generation is wind+solar, depending on the weather, ~15% nuclear, 10-20% hydro.

        The major remaining polluting source is gas (in combined cycle stations), hard to replace for technical reasons. Also about 1% total energy comes from diesel generators in islands.

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        @mbpaz @gim @gekko3k

        similar to UK (which decomissioned its last coal electric plant in 2024). Both spain and uk still use coal for heat processes (industrial and residential), but that is also declining.

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        • francommit@livellosegreto.itF francommit@livellosegreto.it

          @bradr The headquarters of the Instituto Cervantes in Utrecht, seized by Spain's debts towards renewables

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          Embargada la sede del Instituto Cervantes en Utrecht por deudas

          Un tribunal neerlandés autorizó el embargo de la sede del Instituto Cervantes en Utrecht por impagos derivados del recorte a las renovables aprobado por el Gobierno español en 2013.

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          @francommit

          [for the peanut gallery:] That's part of a big mess, something like €1.5 billion in civil judgements, that Spain is contesting, dating back to the 2011-2013 EU Sovereign Debt Crisis (when Rajoy retroactively canceled the 2007 green energy payment guarantee).

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          • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

            @disorderlyf @xerz @bradr to be honest, it's in large part a coincidence. It takes over 5 years (sometimes much longer) since a wind farm is proposed until it comes online.
            Renewables are becoming the main source of electricity simply because of economics. Governments do not need to push renewables: they simply have to avoid punishing them.

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            @mbpaz a feat Germany has yet to achieve @disorderlyf @xerz @bradr

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              @energisch_ WIR können Politik machen @bradr

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              • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA axomamma@mastodon.online

                @thegarbagebird I would say so. I could only wish the US were half as fast. I live in Arizona. There is very little solar despite unrelenting sunshine. Every parking lot could have shaded parking that contributes to the grid. Can we do that? In 2026 the answer is still "no."

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                @Axomamma what is hindering it? @thegarbagebird

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                • pietervdvn@en.osm.townP pietervdvn@en.osm.town

                  @bradr Great news, but this is _only_ aboute electricity production. Is there a graph with _all_ energy and fossil use? I.e. including motor traffic (which still runs on oil), heavy industries and chemical processes?

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                  @pietervdvn This was the comment I was about to make. We're doing ourselves a disservice every time there's progress on electricity generation and it is announced as all energy being transitioned from fossil to green. Electricity is the easier task of the two energy challenges - the hard one is fuel @bradr

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                  • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                    What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

                    Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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                    @bradr I needed to see this. Thank you.

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                    • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                      @pietervdvn This was the comment I was about to make. We're doing ourselves a disservice every time there's progress on electricity generation and it is announced as all energy being transitioned from fossil to green. Electricity is the easier task of the two energy challenges - the hard one is fuel @bradr

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                      @malte @pietervdvn

                      And yet, electrification of industrial heat processes (or rather greenification, since it's a mix of electrification, process changes, and efficiency increases) continues apace. It's not all or nothing, but it's also not nothing.

                      https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/industrials/our-insights/tackling-heat-electrification-to-decarbonize-industry

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                      • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                        What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

                        Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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                        @bradr @gnoll110
                        It's almost always Ember delivering the BS.
                        Energy use is more than electricity, and there is much more to be done before Spain has an energy transformation.
                        Spain is fossil fuelled + 50% oil consumption.
                        check for yourself at iea.org:
                        https://www.iea.org/countries/spain
                        or climateactiontracker.org:
                        https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/eu/

                        Yes, there's progress, but too little, too late.
                        #spain #climate #fossilfuels

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                        • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

                          @bradr @gnoll110
                          It's almost always Ember delivering the BS.
                          Energy use is more than electricity, and there is much more to be done before Spain has an energy transformation.
                          Spain is fossil fuelled + 50% oil consumption.
                          check for yourself at iea.org:
                          https://www.iea.org/countries/spain
                          or climateactiontracker.org:
                          https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/eu/

                          Yes, there's progress, but too little, too late.
                          #spain #climate #fossilfuels

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                          @gusseting @bradr

                          It is an important trend. Electrical power needs to be cheap and abundant, to lead other activities to transition away from fossil carbon.

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                          • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                            What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

                            Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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                            @bradr what happened in 2014 to cause such forceful temporary stagnation? 😎

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                            • C carl@chaos.social

                              @Axomamma what is hindering it? @thegarbagebird

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                              @carl You cannot seriously be asking.

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                              • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                                @malte @pietervdvn

                                And yet, electrification of industrial heat processes (or rather greenification, since it's a mix of electrification, process changes, and efficiency increases) continues apace. It's not all or nothing, but it's also not nothing.

                                https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/industrials/our-insights/tackling-heat-electrification-to-decarbonize-industry

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                                @bradr The point is that these changes are both unaccounted for in these news and also much slower changing. In worst case we ignore that huge area of energy transition. @pietervdvn

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                                • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA axomamma@mastodon.online

                                  @carl You cannot seriously be asking.

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                                  @Axomamma I am. I do not live in the US

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                                    @Axomamma I am. I do not live in the US

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                                    @carl You must be living in a cave. Maybe get out more.

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                                    • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA axomamma@mastodon.online

                                      @carl You must be living in a cave. Maybe get out more.

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                                      @Axomamma I like the fairy tale “The Emperor’s new clothes”. Huge fan of the little kid’s remark. Completely valid and simple yet no adult could answer.

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                                      • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

                                        What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

                                        Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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                                        @bradr
                                        Good good.
                                        How much of that electricity is importation of neighbohours thought ?

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                                        • pietervdvn@en.osm.townP pietervdvn@en.osm.town

                                          @bradr Great news, but this is _only_ aboute electricity production. Is there a graph with _all_ energy and fossil use? I.e. including motor traffic (which still runs on oil), heavy industries and chemical processes?

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                                          @pietervdvn

                                          @bradr ou can find some figures about that in pour world in data, world wide, a developed country uses on average 80% of not electricity, and it does not change fast.

                                          Low carbon production is good, but it will nyo solve anything if the usage switches to it fast, and it will be totally useless if there is no stopping in emitting high carbon sources, because this causes harm at scale.

                                          So we always should watch and denounce the #greenwashing behind some good news, and be careful. Things are not evolving fast enough right now, and delaying the change is also making it harder to achieve and adding to the toll.

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