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"War: a massacre of people who don't know each other for the profit of people who know each other but don't massacre each other."

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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    "War: a massacre of people who don't know each other for the profit of people who know each other but don't massacre each other."

    — Paul Valéry (1871–1945)

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    @stux everyone keeps ascribing to Trump the mentality and the motives of the Enlightenment. Stop trying to *rationalize* it. There is no logic motivating a black hole. IT JUST SUCKS

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      "War: a massacre of people who don't know each other for the profit of people who know each other but don't massacre each other."

      — Paul Valéry (1871–1945)

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      @stux so you're implying that Zelensky and Putin are in bed with each other and started this war together to let their people kill each other?

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        @GOKUSHRM @Schafstelze @stux Even if we only count 21st century wars, this much older quote still applies in for example the second gulf war.

        Regarding Iran, the Reagan administration infamously had a relationship with the current Iranian regime. Oliver North is still active, even if he isn’t directly in the current US regime, but definitely buddy with Sean Hannity and was NRA president during Trump’s first term.

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          "War: a massacre of people who don't know each other for the profit of people who know each other but don't massacre each other."

          — Paul Valéry (1871–1945)

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          @stux
          It's a bit outdated. It's from the time they used to disguise the massacres and call them "wars". They no longer bother.

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          • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

            @stux
            Politicians hide themselves away
            They only started the war
            Why should they go out to fight?
            They leave that role to the poor

            Time will tell on their power minds
            Making war just for fun
            Treating people just like pawns in chess
            Wait 'til their judgement day comes
            Yeah!

            "War Pigs" - Black Sabbath (1970)

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            @trebach @stux

            👍

            https://song.link/y/K3b6SGoN6dA

            War Pigs, Black Sabbath, live #music #BlackSabbath

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            • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

              @kmmfoo @stux

              A variation that I forget the source of:

              "War is fought between poor young men, who don't know each other, on behalf of rich old men, who know each other well."

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              @purrperl @kmmfoo @stux

              Okay, but the presence of the words "young" and "old" is in bad taste.

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              • schafstelze@don.linxx.netS schafstelze@don.linxx.net

                @stux so you're implying that Zelensky and Putin are in bed with each other and started this war together to let their people kill each other?

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                @Schafstelze Not because of Zelensky but yes, it always comes from a ‘higher’ place

                War is not decided by the civilians

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  @Schafstelze Not because of Zelensky but yes, it always comes from a ‘higher’ place

                  War is not decided by the civilians

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                  @stux that is a very comfortable position.

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                  • schafstelze@don.linxx.netS schafstelze@don.linxx.net

                    @stux that is a very comfortable position.

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                    @Schafstelze It's more reality 😉

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                    • cm63@piaille.frC cm63@piaille.fr

                      @purrperl @kmmfoo @stux

                      Okay, but the presence of the words "young" and "old" is in bad taste.

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                      @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                      Our History Professor, one of my favorite teachers in college, taught us not to be "whig historians", i.e., to not judge history strictly according to today's standards of ethics & aesthetics.

                      The US constitution reads, "...all *men* are created equal...", which you might object to. Yet, in the past, "men" was the word used to refer to all people. Not that the slaveholder founders actually followed their own document. Women did not have the right to vote, nor POC etc.

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                      • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

                        @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                        Our History Professor, one of my favorite teachers in college, taught us not to be "whig historians", i.e., to not judge history strictly according to today's standards of ethics & aesthetics.

                        The US constitution reads, "...all *men* are created equal...", which you might object to. Yet, in the past, "men" was the word used to refer to all people. Not that the slaveholder founders actually followed their own document. Women did not have the right to vote, nor POC etc.

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                        @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                        My generation (GenX) & earlier generations struggled against sexism, racism, ageism, homophobia and other injustices of the past, perhaps we have created a culture where our victories became ossified into a new orthodoxy. In the past, those bigoted attitudes towards some people were normalized. One would be discriminated against for being a woman, or even slightly Black, or gay. Earlier generations fought hard against this & won, then sadly, made a new form of bigotry.

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                        • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

                          @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                          My generation (GenX) & earlier generations struggled against sexism, racism, ageism, homophobia and other injustices of the past, perhaps we have created a culture where our victories became ossified into a new orthodoxy. In the past, those bigoted attitudes towards some people were normalized. One would be discriminated against for being a woman, or even slightly Black, or gay. Earlier generations fought hard against this & won, then sadly, made a new form of bigotry.

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                          @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                          Today, the bigotry continues. "Anti-racism", "anti-ageism", & "anti-homophobia" etc are the new norm. Now one is discriminated against by the Political-Correctness bigots, for sounding even slightly racist, sexist, ageist, or homophobic. So insane and out of control is this bigotry, that I, a bisexual, non-binary person, who was having gay sex, and wearing dresses before the new generation even heard the word "drag", get discriminated against for being "homophobic".

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                          • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

                            @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                            Today, the bigotry continues. "Anti-racism", "anti-ageism", & "anti-homophobia" etc are the new norm. Now one is discriminated against by the Political-Correctness bigots, for sounding even slightly racist, sexist, ageist, or homophobic. So insane and out of control is this bigotry, that I, a bisexual, non-binary person, who was having gay sex, and wearing dresses before the new generation even heard the word "drag", get discriminated against for being "homophobic".

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                            @CM63 @kmmfoo @stux

                            https://web.archive.org/web/20250512202153/https://blog.ownlifeful.com/2023/05/stay-away-from-calckey-for-now.html

                            Earlier generations were careless about using racist/sexist/homophobic language. The pendulum has now swung in the opposite direction. Today, people are overly careful about using such language, to the point that they are the new bigots, and will pounce on anyone whose speech sounds even slightly racist/ageist etc. This is a new form of bigotry.

                            Here's an anthem of rebellion which today's generation might misunderstand:
                            https://youtu.be/b1o68h4Usqs

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