It's not about "principles."
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It's not about "principles."
Ben Shaprio said "Arabs like to live in open sewage"—Newsom welcomed him
Kirk called Black women intellectually inferior—Newsom welcomed him
Rogan & Maher drop the N-word with impunity & praise Trump—Corporate Dems go on their shows without delay
Liz Cheney is pro Iraq War, voted against ERA, Equality Act, Voting Rights, Repro rights, Minimum Wage increase—she got to campaign with Harris
You don't need to defend Piker to recognize this absurd & racist hypocrisy.
Wild accusations because Bernie loves to go on right wing shows and you love that guy. Bernie has been on Rogan, Schultz, Fox News, etc... and leftists were throwing tantrums about Kamala not going on Rogan, even though he basically cancelled on her.
Personally, I agree with you that no Democrat should ever go on right wing media and legitimize it. Liz Cheney for all her faults was one of the few Republicans to call Trump out. That you guys are crying about it is pathetic.
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Wild accusations because Bernie loves to go on right wing shows and you love that guy. Bernie has been on Rogan, Schultz, Fox News, etc... and leftists were throwing tantrums about Kamala not going on Rogan, even though he basically cancelled on her.
Personally, I agree with you that no Democrat should ever go on right wing media and legitimize it. Liz Cheney for all her faults was one of the few Republicans to call Trump out. That you guys are crying about it is pathetic.
@HakeemG @QasimRashid These are not equivalent examples. Bernie (as well as Buttigieg) went onto/into the right-wing sphere to make their plays and try to reach people.
Newsom brought CHUDs onto his own platform, and tried to normalize and sane-wash their bullshit.
They are not the same.
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@HakeemG @QasimRashid These are not equivalent examples. Bernie (as well as Buttigieg) went onto/into the right-wing sphere to make their plays and try to reach people.
Newsom brought CHUDs onto his own platform, and tried to normalize and sane-wash their bullshit.
They are not the same.
I've literally seen Bernie saying both sides are "largely corrupt" on right wing podcasts. You're correct on Gavin's podcast though, shame he was doing such a good job on Twitter. I was planning on voting for Kamala anyway.
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I've literally seen Bernie saying both sides are "largely corrupt" on right wing podcasts. You're correct on Gavin's podcast though, shame he was doing such a good job on Twitter. I was planning on voting for Kamala anyway.
@HakeemG @QasimRashid If this were a debate about whether Bernie or Newsom were the better politician, it might be worth debunking that comparison.
It'd be a distraction from the primary point though - the false comparison between Newsom's amoral messaging and other communication styles on the left.
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@HakeemG @QasimRashid If this were a debate about whether Bernie or Newsom were the better politician, it might be worth debunking that comparison.
It'd be a distraction from the primary point though - the false comparison between Newsom's amoral messaging and other communication styles on the left.
Bernie going on Fox News and claiming a false equivalency between the two parties is also morally corrupt. 14 million people are projected to die because of cuts to US Aid.
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Bernie going on Fox News and claiming a false equivalency between the two parties is also morally corrupt. 14 million people are projected to die because of cuts to US Aid.
@HakeemG @pliny @QasimRashid this pearl clutching is very weird. Asserting that both parties are deeply compromised by monied interests to the point that neither represents the working class is not drawing a false equivalence. It's not zero sum - one party is bad and the other is worse.
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It's not about "principles."
Ben Shaprio said "Arabs like to live in open sewage"—Newsom welcomed him
Kirk called Black women intellectually inferior—Newsom welcomed him
Rogan & Maher drop the N-word with impunity & praise Trump—Corporate Dems go on their shows without delay
Liz Cheney is pro Iraq War, voted against ERA, Equality Act, Voting Rights, Repro rights, Minimum Wage increase—she got to campaign with Harris
You don't need to defend Piker to recognize this absurd & racist hypocrisy.
@QasimRashid I refer to the Arabs, notably their leadership, as 'Disneyland Arabs': just when are they going to wake up to reality?
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@HakeemG @pliny @QasimRashid this pearl clutching is very weird. Asserting that both parties are deeply compromised by monied interests to the point that neither represents the working class is not drawing a false equivalence. It's not zero sum - one party is bad and the other is worse.
What's fing weird is that the Nazis are ruining the world as we speak and the Bernie bros are still hanging on to the both sides BS. 14 million of the world's poorest people are about to die as a result of cuts to US Aid and you guys are still at it.
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It's not about "principles."
Ben Shaprio said "Arabs like to live in open sewage"—Newsom welcomed him
Kirk called Black women intellectually inferior—Newsom welcomed him
Rogan & Maher drop the N-word with impunity & praise Trump—Corporate Dems go on their shows without delay
Liz Cheney is pro Iraq War, voted against ERA, Equality Act, Voting Rights, Repro rights, Minimum Wage increase—she got to campaign with Harris
You don't need to defend Piker to recognize this absurd & racist hypocrisy.
@QasimRashid the black race isn't inferior but when one from a certain family makes a crime , they say the whole family committed the crime
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What's fing weird is that the Nazis are ruining the world as we speak and the Bernie bros are still hanging on to the both sides BS. 14 million of the world's poorest people are about to die as a result of cuts to US Aid and you guys are still at it.
@HakeemG @pliny @QasimRashid and unless something changes, when Democrats return to power they'll barely even lift a finger to fix any of it, because the donor class will keep bribing and blackmailing them into sitting on their hands so that they can continue to shove everything into a money-spitting wood chipper.
The political center in the US has been rotted out. The people feel this even if they can't see it - and fascists are gaining power because they admit it, while lying about the causes
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It's not about "principles."
Ben Shaprio said "Arabs like to live in open sewage"—Newsom welcomed him
Kirk called Black women intellectually inferior—Newsom welcomed him
Rogan & Maher drop the N-word with impunity & praise Trump—Corporate Dems go on their shows without delay
Liz Cheney is pro Iraq War, voted against ERA, Equality Act, Voting Rights, Repro rights, Minimum Wage increase—she got to campaign with Harris
You don't need to defend Piker to recognize this absurd & racist hypocrisy.
@QasimRashid Do absolute purity demands help?
LBJ was an utter sleazebag. Nixon, even more so. Yet they oversaw structural reform, the last potuses before the counter revolution. Likeable Carter had a penchant for covert ops, including assassinations. It took the unliked horror clown now in charge to eclipse the liked horror clown St. Ronnie.
A scale, not an absolute. Are Sanders, AOC perfect? I’d argue for accepting human imperfection, as a given, calling for limits.
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Wild accusations because Bernie loves to go on right wing shows and you love that guy. Bernie has been on Rogan, Schultz, Fox News, etc... and leftists were throwing tantrums about Kamala not going on Rogan, even though he basically cancelled on her.
Personally, I agree with you that no Democrat should ever go on right wing media and legitimize it. Liz Cheney for all her faults was one of the few Republicans to call Trump out. That you guys are crying about it is pathetic.
@HakeemG @QasimRashid
Your unceasing whataboutism has finally persuaded me that attempting to have standards for Democrat politicians is meaningless and I should definitely only vote for centrist dems who pander to their imaginary republican base./sarcasm
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It's not about "principles."
Ben Shaprio said "Arabs like to live in open sewage"—Newsom welcomed him
Kirk called Black women intellectually inferior—Newsom welcomed him
Rogan & Maher drop the N-word with impunity & praise Trump—Corporate Dems go on their shows without delay
Liz Cheney is pro Iraq War, voted against ERA, Equality Act, Voting Rights, Repro rights, Minimum Wage increase—she got to campaign with Harris
You don't need to defend Piker to recognize this absurd & racist hypocrisy.
@QasimRashid USamericans: get something better than what you voted for 1.5 years ago & unleashed onto the world RIGHT NOW. It shouldn't be hard! ANYTHING is better than your Guardians Of Pedophiles & Felon 47!
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@HakeemG @pliny @QasimRashid and unless something changes, when Democrats return to power they'll barely even lift a finger to fix any of it, because the donor class will keep bribing and blackmailing them into sitting on their hands so that they can continue to shove everything into a money-spitting wood chipper.
The political center in the US has been rotted out. The people feel this even if they can't see it - and fascists are gaining power because they admit it, while lying about the causes
@HunterZ @HakeemG @pliny @QasimRashid This is how it looks to me FWIW. Getting action to actually and meaningfully punish the naked graft, influence peddling, and war crimes enabled by Trump 2.0 will be an extremely heavy lift.
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@HakeemG @QasimRashid
Your unceasing whataboutism has finally persuaded me that attempting to have standards for Democrat politicians is meaningless and I should definitely only vote for centrist dems who pander to their imaginary republican base./sarcasm
Is that what you think this is? I wouldn't dare try to deprogram the other cult.
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@HakeemG @pliny @QasimRashid and unless something changes, when Democrats return to power they'll barely even lift a finger to fix any of it, because the donor class will keep bribing and blackmailing them into sitting on their hands so that they can continue to shove everything into a money-spitting wood chipper.
The political center in the US has been rotted out. The people feel this even if they can't see it - and fascists are gaining power because they admit it, while lying about the causes
The donor class being who?
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The donor class being who?
@HakeemG @HunterZ @QasimRashid The people trying so hard to convince you that Bernie Bros are A.) Still a thing and B.) The sole source of your electoral ills.
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The donor class being who?
There you go again being weird
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Is that what you think this is? I wouldn't dare try to deprogram the other cult.
@HakeemG @me_valentijn @QasimRashid now look who's drawing false equivalencies. You are not a serious actor, enjoy your mute.
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