discord: - preparing for age verification- centralized- no e2ee- monitored platform- surveillance-ridden- forced phone number validation

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

discord:
- preparing for age verification
- centralized
- no e2ee
- monitored platform
- surveillance-ridden
- forced phone number validation

deltachat/chatmail:
- no logs
- e2ee
- decentralized
- federated
- relay-swapping
- multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
- no tracking
- relay operators see nothing
- no surveillance

the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!

download: https://delta.chat/en/download
run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
support forum: https://support.delta.chat/

#privacy #surveillance #discord

[feld@friedcheese.us]

@jae you can tell that image is AI slop because the chain is using the wrong grade of steel

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@feld forgot to add tolerances.md to ensure proper grading

[nagaram@hachyderm.io]

@jae

Bold to assume your thing won't have data leaks. Based on the AI art here, I'm worried it's tainted with more than just AI "art"

[xaetacore@neondystopia.world]

@jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe or use matrix ​​

[fokeu@mastodon.social]

@jae slop detected

[arcanechat@fosstodon.org]

@Nagaram you see some random person post something in social media and the first you assume is they are the "owner" of the app? LOL

> Bold to assume your thing won't have data leaks.

yeah, that is why it has independent security audits, and besides, it is designed in a way where the servers are just dumb relays that move encrypted blobs around, it is anonymous, there is no registration data need to be stored on the server, you can't have data leaks if you don't have data

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@xaetacore matrix is the one pf the reasons i adopted deltachat and eventually started contributing

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@Fokeu stolen anime art detected

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@Zergling_man couldn't get anyone to use it. although i did build xmpp deltachat bridge last week.

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@themannofcool you're right. should have stuck with the classics. fvck my life

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@Zergling_man not trying to convince anyone. its just a cool project which has some benefits over discord for certain use cases. people are smart enough to decide for themselves. just trying to give options

[skalman@mastodon.social]

@Nagaram @jae It is by design the server only access to encrypted data which does not have the key to decrypt them., Discord is like we have all your history but we promise to keep it secret, oops it leaked! Deltachat servers don't have access to anything to begin with.

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@skalman @Nagaram that's correct. as relay operator (i host 5) all i can see on the filesystem is the email accounts, however even if i wanted to i cannot decrypt persisted messages (which only persist until the device picks them up when online next or if it's multi-device we use an imap like functionality to ensure all devices are able to get their messages synced)

in the end, this whole post turned into a weird thing because i whipped up a "ai slop" image on my own gpu cluster. i realize some may not like that, but our codebase is built by human beings, using human engineering.

sad for people to look at an image and paint an entire inaccurate picture on something they didn't take 10 minutes to look at. but hey i'm not here to convince anyone. it's just a project that's important to me and a lot of fun people in the community.

[jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@skalman @Nagaram expanding a bit. one of my core focuses is a full security audit and analyzing ways to attack/down chatmail relays. i've never been able to break an encryption unless i held the key to the account (which is derived on-device). so the threat vector here is simply "i steal bob's phone while he's sleeping at the cafe, now i can read his messages".

[lil5@social.last.nl]

@jae

Well done, it looks like you really poured your heart into drawing that picture, what you wrote must be equally impressive and inspiring, I’ll definitely read it with full attention. Gee I must be stupid to now block you and never read another toot from you.

[fokeu@mastodon.social]

@jae it's not anime and it's not stolen but your response was to be expected. Don't waste time responding and instead write more prompts to pollute the internet with slop.

[dantescanline@autonomous.zone]

@jae i love DC! but its not a replacement for discord's features except at the most basic level of "send message to a chat"