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  • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    discord:
    - preparing for age verification
    - centralized
    - no e2ee
    - monitored platform
    - surveillance-ridden
    - forced phone number validation

    deltachat/chatmail:
    - no logs
    - e2ee
    - decentralized
    - federated
    - relay-swapping
    - multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
    - no tracking
    - relay operators see nothing
    - no surveillance

    the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!

    download: https://delta.chat/en/download
    run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
    bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
    support forum: https://support.delta.chat/

    #privacy #surveillance #discord

    nagaram@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @jae

    Bold to assume your thing won't have data leaks. Based on the AI art here, I'm worried it's tainted with more than just AI "art"

    arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA skalman@mastodon.socialS 2 Replies Last reply
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    • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      discord:
      - preparing for age verification
      - centralized
      - no e2ee
      - monitored platform
      - surveillance-ridden
      - forced phone number validation

      deltachat/chatmail:
      - no logs
      - e2ee
      - decentralized
      - federated
      - relay-swapping
      - multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
      - no tracking
      - relay operators see nothing
      - no surveillance

      the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!

      download: https://delta.chat/en/download
      run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
      bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
      support forum: https://support.delta.chat/

      #privacy #surveillance #discord

      xaetacore@neondystopia.worldX This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5
      @jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe or use matrix ​​
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      • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        discord:
        - preparing for age verification
        - centralized
        - no e2ee
        - monitored platform
        - surveillance-ridden
        - forced phone number validation

        deltachat/chatmail:
        - no logs
        - e2ee
        - decentralized
        - federated
        - relay-swapping
        - multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
        - no tracking
        - relay operators see nothing
        - no surveillance

        the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!

        download: https://delta.chat/en/download
        run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
        bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
        support forum: https://support.delta.chat/

        #privacy #surveillance #discord

        fokeu@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        fokeu@mastodon.social
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        #6

        @jae slop detected

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        • nagaram@hachyderm.ioN nagaram@hachyderm.io

          @jae

          Bold to assume your thing won't have data leaks. Based on the AI art here, I'm worried it's tainted with more than just AI "art"

          arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
          arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @Nagaram you see some random person post something in social media and the first you assume is they are the "owner" of the app? LOL

          > Bold to assume your thing won't have data leaks.

          yeah, that is why it has independent security audits, and besides, it is designed in a way where the servers are just dumb relays that move encrypted blobs around, it is anonymous, there is no registration data need to be stored on the server, you can't have data leaks if you don't have data

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          • xaetacore@neondystopia.worldX xaetacore@neondystopia.world
            @jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe or use matrix ​​
            jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @xaetacore matrix is the one pf the reasons i adopted deltachat and eventually started contributing

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            • fokeu@mastodon.socialF fokeu@mastodon.social

              @jae slop detected

              jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @Fokeu stolen anime art detected

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              • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                #10

                @Zergling_man couldn't get anyone to use it. although i did build xmpp deltachat bridge last week.

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                • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @themannofcool you're right. should have stuck with the classics. fvck my life

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                  • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @Zergling_man not trying to convince anyone. its just a cool project which has some benefits over discord for certain use cases. people are smart enough to decide for themselves. just trying to give options

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                    • nagaram@hachyderm.ioN nagaram@hachyderm.io

                      @jae

                      Bold to assume your thing won't have data leaks. Based on the AI art here, I'm worried it's tainted with more than just AI "art"

                      skalman@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @Nagaram @jae It is by design the server only access to encrypted data which does not have the key to decrypt them., Discord is like we have all your history but we promise to keep it secret, oops it leaked! Deltachat servers don't have access to anything to begin with.

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                      • skalman@mastodon.socialS skalman@mastodon.social

                        @Nagaram @jae It is by design the server only access to encrypted data which does not have the key to decrypt them., Discord is like we have all your history but we promise to keep it secret, oops it leaked! Deltachat servers don't have access to anything to begin with.

                        jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @skalman @Nagaram that's correct. as relay operator (i host 5) all i can see on the filesystem is the email accounts, however even if i wanted to i cannot decrypt persisted messages (which only persist until the device picks them up when online next or if it's multi-device we use an imap like functionality to ensure all devices are able to get their messages synced)

                        in the end, this whole post turned into a weird thing because i whipped up a "ai slop" image on my own gpu cluster. i realize some may not like that, but our codebase is built by human beings, using human engineering.

                        sad for people to look at an image and paint an entire inaccurate picture on something they didn't take 10 minutes to look at. but hey i'm not here to convince anyone. it's just a project that's important to me and a lot of fun people in the community.

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                        • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @skalman @Nagaram that's correct. as relay operator (i host 5) all i can see on the filesystem is the email accounts, however even if i wanted to i cannot decrypt persisted messages (which only persist until the device picks them up when online next or if it's multi-device we use an imap like functionality to ensure all devices are able to get their messages synced)

                          in the end, this whole post turned into a weird thing because i whipped up a "ai slop" image on my own gpu cluster. i realize some may not like that, but our codebase is built by human beings, using human engineering.

                          sad for people to look at an image and paint an entire inaccurate picture on something they didn't take 10 minutes to look at. but hey i'm not here to convince anyone. it's just a project that's important to me and a lot of fun people in the community.

                          jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                          #15

                          @skalman @Nagaram expanding a bit. one of my core focuses is a full security audit and analyzing ways to attack/down chatmail relays. i've never been able to break an encryption unless i held the key to the account (which is derived on-device). so the threat vector here is simply "i steal bob's phone while he's sleeping at the cafe, now i can read his messages".

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                          • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            discord:
                            - preparing for age verification
                            - centralized
                            - no e2ee
                            - monitored platform
                            - surveillance-ridden
                            - forced phone number validation

                            deltachat/chatmail:
                            - no logs
                            - e2ee
                            - decentralized
                            - federated
                            - relay-swapping
                            - multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
                            - no tracking
                            - relay operators see nothing
                            - no surveillance

                            the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!

                            download: https://delta.chat/en/download
                            run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
                            bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
                            support forum: https://support.delta.chat/

                            #privacy #surveillance #discord

                            lil5@social.last.nlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @jae

                            Well done, it looks like you really poured your heart into drawing that picture, what you wrote must be equally impressive and inspiring, I’ll definitely read it with full attention. Gee I must be stupid to now block you and never read another toot from you.

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                            • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @Fokeu stolen anime art detected

                              fokeu@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #17

                              @jae it's not anime and it's not stolen but your response was to be expected. Don't waste time responding and instead write more prompts to pollute the internet with slop.

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                              • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                discord:
                                - preparing for age verification
                                - centralized
                                - no e2ee
                                - monitored platform
                                - surveillance-ridden
                                - forced phone number validation

                                deltachat/chatmail:
                                - no logs
                                - e2ee
                                - decentralized
                                - federated
                                - relay-swapping
                                - multi-relay (become unstoppable!)
                                - no tracking
                                - relay operators see nothing
                                - no surveillance

                                the #deltachat and #chatmail teams are hard at work improving our ecosystem, client ui/ux, and building community!

                                download: https://delta.chat/en/download
                                run your own relay: https://github.com/chatmail/relay
                                bot ecosystem: https://deltachat-bot.github.io/public-bots/#/home
                                support forum: https://support.delta.chat/

                                #privacy #surveillance #discord

                                dantescanline@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote last edited by
                                #18

                                @jae i love DC! but its not a replacement for discord's features except at the most basic level of "send message to a chat"

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