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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 17 - 11 Apr - Ravières - Paris - Stuttgart - München - Budapest

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @moof I didn’t want to trainsplain the guy 😆

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    @jon That would be very Gauche

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      TER 17750
      06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy, diverted via Corbeil 08:50

      Distance: 236.9km
      Average speed: 95km/h

      6 stops:
      Tonnerre
      St-Florentin-Vergigny
      Laroche-Migennes
      Joigny
      Sens
      Paris-Bercy

      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.287249/3.297270

      #CrossBorderRail

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      Trundling into Paris. Diversion was timetabled in, but not enough. No worry, I’ll get my connection.

      But typical SNCF 🤷‍♂️ no information whatsoever provided on board here.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Trundling into Paris. Diversion was timetabled in, but not enough. No worry, I’ll get my connection.

        But typical SNCF 🤷‍♂️ no information whatsoever provided on board here.

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        The Birdy is equipped with a better stand for this trip. And the bags are mounted ready for a quick trip across Paris to Gare de l’Est in the spring sunshine.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          The Birdy is equipped with a better stand for this trip. And the bags are mounted ready for a quick trip across Paris to Gare de l’Est in the spring sunshine.

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          Also the delay into Paris doesn’t bother me. There’s no tight connection here as the Paris - Strasbourg timetable is so thin anyway. #SNCFlogic

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Odd situation at Nuits-sous-Ravières, my local station. 6am on a Saturday, only one passenger other than me is there and he is perturbed. "Which platform does the train to Paris depart from?" he asks me. "Always the far one" I tell him.

            There are works ongoing at the station currently, some idiot has... 🥁 hung up the wrong sign!

            Both platforms now say Dijon! 🤦‍♂️

            #CrossBorderRail

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            @jon At least for once not all only leads to Paris…

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Also the delay into Paris doesn’t bother me. There’s no tight connection here as the Paris - Strasbourg timetable is so thin anyway. #SNCFlogic

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              So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Trundling into Paris. Diversion was timetabled in, but not enough. No worry, I’ll get my connection.

                But typical SNCF 🤷‍♂️ no information whatsoever provided on board here.

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                @jon Passenger information on a measly, insignificant TER? We French deign to give such a privilege only to distinguished bearers of a fancy TGV ticket (Optimum preferred). Only those elite are enlightened with our true insights: Merci d’avoir choisi le mode de transport le plus écologique pour votre voyage, et ne tentez pas de descendre du train lorsqu’il est en mouvement.

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic

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                  Ah. Not as if you’ve got a dozen spare platforms or anything (because there are *so few trains*) but they’ve put both Strasbourg trains on the same platform #SNCFlogic (the inOui isn’t announced, but I’m 95% sure that’s it in front of the OUIGO)

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                  • grlodi@mastodon.socialG grlodi@mastodon.social

                    @jon Passenger information on a measly, insignificant TER? We French deign to give such a privilege only to distinguished bearers of a fancy TGV ticket (Optimum preferred). Only those elite are enlightened with our true insights: Merci d’avoir choisi le mode de transport le plus écologique pour votre voyage, et ne tentez pas de descendre du train lorsqu’il est en mouvement.

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                    @grlodi et nous vous souhaitons une belle correspondance à l'aéroport qui dispose naturellement de sa gare TGV contrairement aux grandes villes
                    @jon

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Ah. Not as if you’ve got a dozen spare platforms or anything (because there are *so few trains*) but they’ve put both Strasbourg trains on the same platform #SNCFlogic (the inOui isn’t announced, but I’m 95% sure that’s it in front of the OUIGO)

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                      Ah. Now we’ve got a SNCF employee at the ticket gates - that are obviously set up to scan any ticket - shouting at passengers that it’s only the OUIGO boarding, not the inOui too. 👏 #SNCFlogic

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Ah. Now we’ve got a SNCF employee at the ticket gates - that are obviously set up to scan any ticket - shouting at passengers that it’s only the OUIGO boarding, not the inOui too. 👏 #SNCFlogic

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                        And we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers 😆 #SNCFlogic

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          The Birdy is equipped with a better stand for this trip. And the bags are mounted ready for a quick trip across Paris to Gare de l’Est in the spring sunshine.

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                          @jon Tss. the sheer opulence of that tiny foldable bike having a stand.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic

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                            The wastes of capacity you document regularly seem criminal.

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic

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                              @jon whenever I hear people in the UK criticise the railways here, I might send them this post. Yes, the UK system has many issues, but I cannot conceive of a long-distance terminus in London having only 3 trains in an hour outside of engineering works.

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                              • deadliftbear@mas.toD deadliftbear@mas.to

                                @jon whenever I hear people in the UK criticise the railways here, I might send them this post. Yes, the UK system has many issues, but I cannot conceive of a long-distance terminus in London having only 3 trains in an hour outside of engineering works.

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                                @deadliftbear Right. Or indeed any terminus in any major city other than France or Spain.

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  And we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers 😆 #SNCFlogic

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                                  Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic

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                                    However my point above was wrong - they did board the OUIGO and inOui from separate platforms 👏 They then just hadn’t opened the gates 🤷‍♂️ #SNCFlogic

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      However my point above was wrong - they did board the OUIGO and inOui from separate platforms 👏 They then just hadn’t opened the gates 🤷‍♂️ #SNCFlogic

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                                      However you’ve got to admire ticket gates that are staff intensive, do not work well for passengers (QR codes often don’t scan half the time) *and* do not prevent you getting on the wrong train. Which is silly anyway when you have two brands of train run by the same company a few minutes apart, but with incompatible ticketing. #SNCFlogic

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic

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                                        @jon Thought that was bad, but now I'm just thankful this doesn't involve a second gate for no good reason [that I can think of].

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          However my point above was wrong - they did board the OUIGO and inOui from separate platforms 👏 They then just hadn’t opened the gates 🤷‍♂️ #SNCFlogic

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                                          @jon I really really hate ticket gates. They are a form of distrust that makes no sense to me

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