Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 17 - 11 Apr - Ravières - Paris - Stuttgart - München - Budapest
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@jon Remember: the French always drive on the correct track. Most of the rest of Europe on the right track.
@moof I didn’t want to trainsplain the guy
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@moof I didn’t want to trainsplain the guy
@jon That would be very Gauche
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TER 17750
06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy, diverted via Corbeil 08:50Distance: 236.9km
Average speed: 95km/h6 stops:
Tonnerre
St-Florentin-Vergigny
Laroche-Migennes
Joigny
Sens
Paris-BercyThis train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.287249/3.297270
Trundling into Paris. Diversion was timetabled in, but not enough. No worry, I’ll get my connection.
But typical SNCF
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Trundling into Paris. Diversion was timetabled in, but not enough. No worry, I’ll get my connection.
But typical SNCF
️ no information whatsoever provided on board here.The Birdy is equipped with a better stand for this trip. And the bags are mounted ready for a quick trip across Paris to Gare de l’Est in the spring sunshine.
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The Birdy is equipped with a better stand for this trip. And the bags are mounted ready for a quick trip across Paris to Gare de l’Est in the spring sunshine.
Also the delay into Paris doesn’t bother me. There’s no tight connection here as the Paris - Strasbourg timetable is so thin anyway. #SNCFlogic
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Odd situation at Nuits-sous-Ravières, my local station. 6am on a Saturday, only one passenger other than me is there and he is perturbed. "Which platform does the train to Paris depart from?" he asks me. "Always the far one" I tell him.
There are works ongoing at the station currently, some idiot has...
hung up the wrong sign!Both platforms now say Dijon!
️@jon At least for once not all only leads to Paris…
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Also the delay into Paris doesn’t bother me. There’s no tight connection here as the Paris - Strasbourg timetable is so thin anyway. #SNCFlogic
So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic
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Trundling into Paris. Diversion was timetabled in, but not enough. No worry, I’ll get my connection.
But typical SNCF
️ no information whatsoever provided on board here.@jon Passenger information on a measly, insignificant TER? We French deign to give such a privilege only to distinguished bearers of a fancy TGV ticket (Optimum preferred). Only those elite are enlightened with our true insights: Merci d’avoir choisi le mode de transport le plus écologique pour votre voyage, et ne tentez pas de descendre du train lorsqu’il est en mouvement.
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So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic
Ah. Not as if you’ve got a dozen spare platforms or anything (because there are *so few trains*) but they’ve put both Strasbourg trains on the same platform #SNCFlogic (the inOui isn’t announced, but I’m 95% sure that’s it in front of the OUIGO)
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@jon Passenger information on a measly, insignificant TER? We French deign to give such a privilege only to distinguished bearers of a fancy TGV ticket (Optimum preferred). Only those elite are enlightened with our true insights: Merci d’avoir choisi le mode de transport le plus écologique pour votre voyage, et ne tentez pas de descendre du train lorsqu’il est en mouvement.
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Ah. Not as if you’ve got a dozen spare platforms or anything (because there are *so few trains*) but they’ve put both Strasbourg trains on the same platform #SNCFlogic (the inOui isn’t announced, but I’m 95% sure that’s it in front of the OUIGO)
Ah. Now we’ve got a SNCF employee at the ticket gates - that are obviously set up to scan any ticket - shouting at passengers that it’s only the OUIGO boarding, not the inOui too.
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Ah. Now we’ve got a SNCF employee at the ticket gates - that are obviously set up to scan any ticket - shouting at passengers that it’s only the OUIGO boarding, not the inOui too.
#SNCFlogicAnd we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers
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The Birdy is equipped with a better stand for this trip. And the bags are mounted ready for a quick trip across Paris to Gare de l’Est in the spring sunshine.
@jon Tss. the sheer opulence of that tiny foldable bike having a stand.
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So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic
The wastes of capacity you document regularly seem criminal.
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So between 0900 and 1000 there are no Paris - Strasbourg trains (and only 3 long distance trains total, and Frankfurt is via Saarbrücken). Between 1000 and 1100 there are 3 - a SNCF OUIGO, a SNCF inOui just 17 mins later, and a SNCF-DB TGV to Stuttgart (that’s full, and cut off my screenshot) #SNCFlogic
@jon whenever I hear people in the UK criticise the railways here, I might send them this post. Yes, the UK system has many issues, but I cannot conceive of a long-distance terminus in London having only 3 trains in an hour outside of engineering works.
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@jon whenever I hear people in the UK criticise the railways here, I might send them this post. Yes, the UK system has many issues, but I cannot conceive of a long-distance terminus in London having only 3 trains in an hour outside of engineering works.
@deadliftbear Right. Or indeed any terminus in any major city other than France or Spain.
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And we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers
#SNCFlogicAh the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic
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Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic
However my point above was wrong - they did board the OUIGO and inOui from separate platforms
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However my point above was wrong - they did board the OUIGO and inOui from separate platforms
They then just hadn’t opened the gates ️ #SNCFlogicHowever you’ve got to admire ticket gates that are staff intensive, do not work well for passengers (QR codes often don’t scan half the time) *and* do not prevent you getting on the wrong train. Which is silly anyway when you have two brands of train run by the same company a few minutes apart, but with incompatible ticketing. #SNCFlogic
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Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic
@jon Thought that was bad, but now I'm just thankful this doesn't involve a second gate for no good reason [that I can think of].
