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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

    it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

    (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

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    @whitequark is love to see what of the CAT scans that Tested does on various things.

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      I'm not yet sure how I'll open it up. I don't have a hacksaw (somehow... I should fix that), so my options are somewhat limited: it's either cracking or melting plastic. from what others have done I know I there's plastic welding all around the joined region.

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      @whitequark
      No razor saw?
      (a super fine modelling saw with a reinforced back)

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      • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

        @whitequark
        No razor saw?
        (a super fine modelling saw with a reinforced back)

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        @kirtai me: i don't have a hacksaw

        you: no razor saw?

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          @kirtai me: i don't have a hacksaw

          you: no razor saw?

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          @whitequark
          They're not the same kind of saw

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            decided the next thing to do would be to dump the presumed Winbond flash WLCSP

            here it is mounted on a SOIC-8 pinout with a tiny bit of UV epoxy, like a particularly exotic dead bug

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            @whitequark its...

            a brick

            with an arm core, wifi and speakers?

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

              originals: 1 2

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              @whitequark

              Interesting... I wouldn't do the port myself due to lack of time, but it should be doable.

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

                originals: 1 2

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                @whitequark Wow they've come a long way since the Mindstorms NXT bricks! I wrote my first embedded stuff on that brick, debugging my LCD driver by beeping out register values one bit at a time. Simpler, more innocent times when I didn't have the tools to hook into the handy JTAG port that was right there.

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @whitequark its...

                  a brick

                  with an arm core, wifi and speakers?

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                  @Viss bluetooth le, but yes

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    decided the next thing to do would be to dump the presumed Winbond flash WLCSP

                    here it is mounted on a SOIC-8 pinout with a tiny bit of UV epoxy, like a particularly exotic dead bug

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                    connected half of the pads

                    this is my first time soldering a 0.3mm pitch WLCSP, so it took me a bit to set up the workspace the way that makes it possible, but it's not too bad

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      @migratory fascinating!

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                      @whitequark @migratory

                      actually the easiest way to get rid of inconvenient abs is acetone. dump ABS in, get highly flammable toxic sludge out.

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        @bob i don't have any nichrome at hand and i'm pretty sure i'd give myself burns if i tried

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                        @whitequark @bob

                        8-year-old me discovered copper works just fine when attached to a sufficiently large transformer.

                        much older me is banned from hot tools.

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @Viss bluetooth le, but yes

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                          @whitequark hah, wow

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                          • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                            @whitequark Calling an ARC CPU industry standard is very funny to me

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                            @ldcd @whitequark
                            It is quite widespread, even if not visible to end users.
                            Being in most Intel CPU's and all that.

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                            • doomsey@hachyderm.ioD doomsey@hachyderm.io

                              @whitequark @bob

                              8-year-old me discovered copper works just fine when attached to a sufficiently large transformer.

                              much older me is banned from hot tools.

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                              @whitequark @bob

                              8 year olds should be allowed nowhere near these. https://dfarq.homeip.net/all-about-the-lionel-zw/

                              doubly so, two of them, with the knowledge you could run them back-to-back to do interesting things.

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                              • ftg@mastodon.radioF ftg@mastodon.radio

                                @ldcd @whitequark
                                It is quite widespread, even if not visible to end users.
                                Being in most Intel CPU's and all that.

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                                @ftg @whitequark yeah that's why it's kind of funny, it is simultaneously a very common CPU and a very obscure CPU (ie it's hard to get comprehensive documentation, the devkit is literally an FPGA, etc)

                                Like they're not lying but they're trying to imply it's a normal CPU to use and be able to program which isn't really true

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  connected half of the pads

                                  this is my first time soldering a 0.3mm pitch WLCSP, so it took me a bit to set up the workspace the way that makes it possible, but it's not too bad

                                  Link Preview Image
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                                  finally done. no shorts and (as far as i can tell under mag) no opens

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                                  • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @ftg @whitequark yeah that's why it's kind of funny, it is simultaneously a very common CPU and a very obscure CPU (ie it's hard to get comprehensive documentation, the devkit is literally an FPGA, etc)

                                    Like they're not lying but they're trying to imply it's a normal CPU to use and be able to program which isn't really true

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                                    @ldcd @ftg @whitequark I have yet to come across any SoC with an ARC core where the docs weren't partially or fully NDA'd, or at least gated behind a sales call.

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                                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                      @ldcd @ftg @whitequark I have yet to come across any SoC with an ARC core where the docs weren't partially or fully NDA'd, or at least gated behind a sales call.

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                                      @gsuberland @ftg @whitequark exactly

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        finally done. no shorts and (as far as i can tell under mag) no opens

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                                        @whitequark xtra smol 🤏🏼

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                                        • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                          @gsuberland @ftg @whitequark exactly

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                                          @gsuberland @ftg @whitequark This is my industry standard very normal CPU core (no you cannot look at)

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