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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    I'm not yet sure how I'll open it up. I don't have a hacksaw (somehow... I should fix that), so my options are somewhat limited: it's either cracking or melting plastic. from what others have done I know I there's plastic welding all around the joined region.

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    @whitequark
    No razor saw?
    (a super fine modelling saw with a reinforced back)

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    • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

      @whitequark
      No razor saw?
      (a super fine modelling saw with a reinforced back)

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      @kirtai me: i don't have a hacksaw

      you: no razor saw?

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @kirtai me: i don't have a hacksaw

        you: no razor saw?

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        @whitequark
        They're not the same kind of saw

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          decided the next thing to do would be to dump the presumed Winbond flash WLCSP

          here it is mounted on a SOIC-8 pinout with a tiny bit of UV epoxy, like a particularly exotic dead bug

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          @whitequark its...

          a brick

          with an arm core, wifi and speakers?

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

            originals: 1 2

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            @whitequark

            Interesting... I wouldn't do the port myself due to lack of time, but it should be doable.

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

              originals: 1 2

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              @whitequark Wow they've come a long way since the Mindstorms NXT bricks! I wrote my first embedded stuff on that brick, debugging my LCD driver by beeping out register values one bit at a time. Simpler, more innocent times when I didn't have the tools to hook into the handy JTAG port that was right there.

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                @whitequark its...

                a brick

                with an arm core, wifi and speakers?

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                @Viss bluetooth le, but yes

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  decided the next thing to do would be to dump the presumed Winbond flash WLCSP

                  here it is mounted on a SOIC-8 pinout with a tiny bit of UV epoxy, like a particularly exotic dead bug

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                  connected half of the pads

                  this is my first time soldering a 0.3mm pitch WLCSP, so it took me a bit to set up the workspace the way that makes it possible, but it's not too bad

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    @migratory fascinating!

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                    @whitequark @migratory

                    actually the easiest way to get rid of inconvenient abs is acetone. dump ABS in, get highly flammable toxic sludge out.

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      @bob i don't have any nichrome at hand and i'm pretty sure i'd give myself burns if i tried

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                      @whitequark @bob

                      8-year-old me discovered copper works just fine when attached to a sufficiently large transformer.

                      much older me is banned from hot tools.

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        @Viss bluetooth le, but yes

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                        @whitequark hah, wow

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                        • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                          @whitequark Calling an ARC CPU industry standard is very funny to me

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                          @ldcd @whitequark
                          It is quite widespread, even if not visible to end users.
                          Being in most Intel CPU's and all that.

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                          • doomsey@hachyderm.ioD doomsey@hachyderm.io

                            @whitequark @bob

                            8-year-old me discovered copper works just fine when attached to a sufficiently large transformer.

                            much older me is banned from hot tools.

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                            @whitequark @bob

                            8 year olds should be allowed nowhere near these. https://dfarq.homeip.net/all-about-the-lionel-zw/

                            doubly so, two of them, with the knowledge you could run them back-to-back to do interesting things.

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                            • ftg@mastodon.radioF ftg@mastodon.radio

                              @ldcd @whitequark
                              It is quite widespread, even if not visible to end users.
                              Being in most Intel CPU's and all that.

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                              @ftg @whitequark yeah that's why it's kind of funny, it is simultaneously a very common CPU and a very obscure CPU (ie it's hard to get comprehensive documentation, the devkit is literally an FPGA, etc)

                              Like they're not lying but they're trying to imply it's a normal CPU to use and be able to program which isn't really true

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                connected half of the pads

                                this is my first time soldering a 0.3mm pitch WLCSP, so it took me a bit to set up the workspace the way that makes it possible, but it's not too bad

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                                finally done. no shorts and (as far as i can tell under mag) no opens

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                                • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @ftg @whitequark yeah that's why it's kind of funny, it is simultaneously a very common CPU and a very obscure CPU (ie it's hard to get comprehensive documentation, the devkit is literally an FPGA, etc)

                                  Like they're not lying but they're trying to imply it's a normal CPU to use and be able to program which isn't really true

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                                  @ldcd @ftg @whitequark I have yet to come across any SoC with an ARC core where the docs weren't partially or fully NDA'd, or at least gated behind a sales call.

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                                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                    @ldcd @ftg @whitequark I have yet to come across any SoC with an ARC core where the docs weren't partially or fully NDA'd, or at least gated behind a sales call.

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                                    @gsuberland @ftg @whitequark exactly

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      finally done. no shorts and (as far as i can tell under mag) no opens

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                                      @whitequark xtra smol 🤏🏼

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                                      • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @gsuberland @ftg @whitequark exactly

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                                        @gsuberland @ftg @whitequark This is my industry standard very normal CPU core (no you cannot look at)

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                                        • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                          @ldcd @ftg @whitequark I have yet to come across any SoC with an ARC core where the docs weren't partially or fully NDA'd, or at least gated behind a sales call.

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                                          @gsuberland @ldcd @ftg @whitequark can we blame star fox for this
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