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#retrocomputing folks: I'm trying to get a sense of the proportion of people here who are into a given class of retrocomputer today but didn't experience the machines when they first came on the market.

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  • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

    @fluidlogic

    I don't think you could buy any 8- or 16-bit computers in 1994. That was well into the 32-bit era.

    The beginning of the end of the 16-bit era was 1986. That's when the 386 came out. It was obsolete in 1989, so that's when I'd say the 32-bit era had begun in earnest.

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    @argv_minus_one yes, they overlapped. In 1992, Atari released the Falcon and Commodore released the Amiga 4000.

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    • wotsac@mastodon.socialW wotsac@mastodon.social

      @fluidlogic there's a lot of room to carve this up. Like CP/M was mostly before my time but I got pretty into those machines when they were at once relatively almost new, but also very obsolete- and I'd argue that was retrocomputing. Similar for the TRS/80 model 2/16/6000 which could also run XENIX and verged on being minis.

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      @wotsac yes "heyday" is shorthand for "the time during which a machine felt new and exciting and was productive".

      This is not remotely a scientific poll! I have no idea if people who are answering are really current retrocomputing aficionados, for example.

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      • fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF fluidlogic@oldbytes.space

        @rogerparkinson did you skip the 8-bitters entirely?

        You're a candidate for the minicomputer poll!

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        @fluidlogic I did skip them entirely, yes. Though I have done things with embedded 8 bit devices more recently eg ATTiny85 and Teensy.

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        • rogerparkinson@mastodon.nzR rogerparkinson@mastodon.nz

          @fluidlogic I did skip them entirely, yes. Though I have done things with embedded 8 bit devices more recently eg ATTiny85 and Teensy.

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          @rogerparkinson did you consider them mere toys at the time?

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          • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

            @fluidlogic

            I don't think you could buy any 8- or 16-bit computers in 1994. That was well into the 32-bit era.

            The beginning of the end of the 16-bit era was 1986. That's when the 386 came out. It was obsolete in 1989, so that's when I'd say the 32-bit era had begun in earnest.

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            @argv_minus_one

            You could definitely buy major name consumer grade 286 desktop PCs in 1990.

            My dad replaced our family's z80-based Heathkit with a 286-based Packard Bell on or around that year.

            A lot of people just didn't use Windows back then, and the extra cost of a 386 had little advantage if you weren't doing gui+multitasking.

            It wasn't the 386 that ushered in the end of 16 bit computing, it was windows 3.1... which could run on a 286 but was painfully restricted there.

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              @AdrianRiskin yes! Put the word out on here, using the tags #retrocomputing , #vintagecomputing , #commodorepet and optionally #losangeles and you'll get people popping up offering to take it off your hands. If you can include a snap or two, so much the better. Good luck!

              I suggest not putting power into it, as the chemistry-based electronics will have degraded in storage and might pop, making repair harder.

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                @scuttlebutt thanks - I wasn't aware.

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                • fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF fluidlogic@oldbytes.space

                  @argv_minus_one yes, they overlapped. In 1992, Atari released the Falcon and Commodore released the Amiga 4000.

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                  @fluidlogic

                  Hmm? I don't understand. Those are both 32-bit machines.

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                  • fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF fluidlogic@oldbytes.space

                    @rogerparkinson did you consider them mere toys at the time?

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                    @fluidlogic I can't say I thought about them much, other than the idea of taking a machine home rather than using it at the office. I got a PC and I mainly used it to dial into the VAX machines at work. I never gave the others (ie 8 bits) a thought. Then I had to do some programming on, by then, Windows 3. Had to jump through lots of hoops to do what I wanted in 16 bits.

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                    • fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF fluidlogic@oldbytes.space

                      #retrocomputing folks: I'm trying to get a sense of the proportion of people here who are into a given class of retrocomputer today but didn't experience the machines when they first came on the market. I want everyone's input! Please boost!

                      This poll is about the early consumer home computers released between say 1977 and 1994.

                      Minicomputer poll: https://oldbytes.space/@fluidlogic/116026497511100991

                      32-bit home/personal computer poll: https://oldbytes.space/@fluidlogic/116026605156645610

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                      @fluidlogic First computer was a 386 SX. When Doom came around I was still having a blast at like 8fps.

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