so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

[toasterson@chaos.social]

@ariadne I know right! /me grabs popcorn for the return of the appeals.

[natty@astolfo.social]

@ariadne@treehouse.systems Couldn't they technically say it's a trade secret?

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@natty not covered by DMCA

[wakame@tech.lgbt]

@Toasterson @ariadne

Anthropic lawyer: "Similar to murder vs. accidental death, 'stealing' assumes intent, which our AI doesn't have, or... maybe has, we aren't sure about that... so... I think we have to postpone the verdict until a time where Anthropic has successfully and beyond all doubt created an AGI and contained it."

[prozacchiwawa@functional.cafe]

@ariadne

"a manager received orders from a corporate board to get someone to vibe code this, which is creative work."

[danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.host]

@ariadne yeah, I'm kinda wondering if I could do something to invoke a DMCA takedown so I could publish the response to "but Boris Cherney said, so I'm gonna need you to specify exactly which parts are copyrightable..."

[griotspeak@soc.mod-12.com]

@natty @ariadne But … they made it not a secret…

[avuko@infosec.exchange]

@griotspeak @natty @ariadne I’m unironically thinking maybe Claude pushed itself to prod.

[dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne they probably did not want to have this lawsuit this soon, but claude did

[nrdufour@gardenstate.social]

@ariadne a bit like saying that LLMs is the best opensource source of code ever created a copyright laundromat ^^

[avuko@infosec.exchange]

@atax1a you’re probably right.

Would be damn funny if it turns out someone had this all set up with prompting.

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@nrdufour i mean someone made that argument on openbsd-tech recently

[cmw@dysfunctional.technology]

@ariadne
Yet another case of:

Laws that apply to those that they don't defend and defend those that they don't apply to.

[nuclearoatmeal@beige.party]

@ariadne

Was only with phone when I heard. So I just downloaded the zip file from GitHub since I figured its half life wouldn't be too long.

[semitones@tiny.tilde.website]

@ariadne DMCA stands for "Don't Make Code Available"

[sierrakomodo@tech.lgbt]

@ariadne Feels like these days dmca only exists to be abused by the rich and powerful

[js@ap.nil.im]

@ariadne Even better: Prompt Claude to rewrite it all and tell it to make it clean room, just like has been done with OSS software before :). It’s a win-win: Either copyright does not apply, and their own code is now open source, even if it contained some non-AI-generated code. Or copyright does apply and OSS can no longer be license washed using LLMs.

[mweiss@infosec.exchange]

@ariadne it's not *all* vibecoded. And DMCA requires honoring the takedown request. Of course, the request can be disputed, and the whole thing can go to court, and Anthropic can produce evidence about which parts of the code were human produced.

But the answer isn't as simple as "it's all GenAI so none of it is copyrightable".

It would be more fun if it were, though.