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  3. so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

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  • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

    so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

    but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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    prozacchiwawa@functional.cafe
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    @ariadne

    "a manager received orders from a corporate board to get someone to vibe code this, which is creative work."

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    • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

      so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

      but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

      danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.hostD This user is from outside of this forum
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      danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.host
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      @ariadne yeah, I'm kinda wondering if I could do something to invoke a DMCA takedown so I could publish the response to "but Boris Cherney said, so I'm gonna need you to specify exactly which parts are copyrightable..."

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      • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

        @ariadne@treehouse.systems Couldn't they technically say it's a trade secret?

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        @natty @ariadne But … they made it not a secret…

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        • griotspeak@soc.mod-12.comG griotspeak@soc.mod-12.com

          @natty @ariadne But … they made it not a secret…

          avuko@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @griotspeak @natty @ariadne I’m unironically thinking maybe Claude pushed itself to prod.

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          • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

            so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

            but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

            dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ariadne they probably did not want to have this lawsuit this soon, but claude did

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            • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

              so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

              but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

              nrdufour@gardenstate.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              nrdufour@gardenstate.social
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              @ariadne a bit like saying that LLMs is the best opensource source of code ever created 😄 a copyright laundromat ^^

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                @atax1a you’re probably right.

                Would be damn funny if it turns out someone had this all set up with prompting.

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                • nrdufour@gardenstate.socialN nrdufour@gardenstate.social

                  @ariadne a bit like saying that LLMs is the best opensource source of code ever created 😄 a copyright laundromat ^^

                  ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @nrdufour i mean someone made that argument on openbsd-tech recently

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                  • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                    so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

                    but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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                    @ariadne
                    Yet another case of:

                    Laws that apply to those that they don't defend and defend those that they don't apply to.

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                    • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                      so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

                      but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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                      @ariadne

                      Was only with phone when I heard. So I just downloaded the zip file from GitHub since I figured its half life wouldn't be too long.

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                      • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                        so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

                        but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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                        @ariadne DMCA stands for "Don't Make Code Available"

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                        • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                          so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

                          but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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                          @ariadne Feels like these days dmca only exists to be abused by the rich and powerful

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                          • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                            so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

                            but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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                            @ariadne Even better: Prompt Claude to rewrite it all and tell it to make it clean room, just like has been done with OSS software before :). It’s a win-win: Either copyright does not apply, and their own code is now open source, even if it contained some non-AI-generated code. Or copyright does apply and OSS can no longer be license washed using LLMs.

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                            • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                              so anthropic's coding thing leaked, and they are using DMCA to get it taken down.

                              but if it is all vibecoded and everything generated by LLM is not copyrightable...

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                              mweiss@infosec.exchange
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                              @ariadne it's not *all* vibecoded. And DMCA requires honoring the takedown request. Of course, the request can be disputed, and the whole thing can go to court, and Anthropic can produce evidence about which parts of the code were human produced.

                              But the answer isn't as simple as "it's all GenAI so none of it is copyrightable".

                              It would be more fun if it were, though.

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