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  3. so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

    @blogdiva Does this mean all those AI-generated ads are not copyrightable?

    Time to remix.

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    Coca-Cola is facing backlash online over an artificial intelligence-made Christmas promotional video that users are calling “soulless” and “devoid of any actual creativity.”

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    darkerknight@climatejustice.social
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    @drahardja @blogdiva

    Diss Coca-cola online and above that, STOP DRINKING IT!

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    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

      @Viss that is EXACTLY the admission i was thinking of. also, the AWS “agentic” fiasco that deleted a whole server farm, or whatever it was? yah. should be interesting.

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      @blogdiva

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      • elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE elduvelle@neuromatch.social

        @blogdiva that's silly, it's like saying something written by a typewriter is not copyright-able because it was made by a machine.. The "AI" program was made by a human in the first place, it's just slightly more sophisticated..

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        @elduvelle @blogdiva Genuinely curious, are you always this silly or do you just play ridiculous as a Reply Guy?

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        • calbearo@convo.casaC calbearo@convo.casa

          @drahardja Even more of a threat to film and music execs and producers wanting to use AI for films, TV and music. This could devalue those threats to human content creators.

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          @calbearo @drahardja yeah, pretty excited to start remixing Aranofsky's slop Revolutionary War series!

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          • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

            @elduvelle
            Yeah... you're right: you are NOT a lawyer.

            I am and you don't know what you are talking about. Transformation has NOTHING to do with copyrightability. Nada. Nichevo. Rien.

            (@drahardja )

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            eldersea@expressional.social
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            @LeslieBurns @elduvelle @drahardja

            LMAO damn.

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            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

              so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

              #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

              this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

              ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
              https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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              #31

              @blogdiva Also could make it harder for Hollywood and TV production studios, who are probably thinking they'll go full AI at some point in the coming years.

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              • drsaucy@sfba.socialD drsaucy@sfba.social

                @elduvelle @blogdiva Genuinely curious, are you always this silly or do you just play ridiculous as a Reply Guy?

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                @DrSaucy I'm not sure what your problem is, but are you sure you are answering to the correct post? Reply guy? What is ridiculous in my post?

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                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                  so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                  #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                  this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                  ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                  https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

                  ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @blogdiva

                  The big tech companies have created the most inefficient and expensive public library known to man.

                  They’ve read that LLMs will happily reproduce an entire work of an author just basically copy pasting the book.

                  Should work wonders asking one of these videos services to completely replicate down to the pixel whatever film we want

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                  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                    @blogdiva Does this mean all those AI-generated ads are not copyrightable?

                    Time to remix.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Coca-Cola causes controversy with AI-generated ad

                    Coca-Cola is facing backlash online over an artificial intelligence-made Christmas promotional video that users are calling “soulless” and “devoid of any actual creativity.”

                    favicon

                    NBC News (www.nbcnews.com)

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                    @drahardja @blogdiva
                    Copyrights are only to protect the Epstein class, silly.

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                    • calbearo@convo.casaC calbearo@convo.casa

                      @drahardja Even more of a threat to film and music execs and producers wanting to use AI for films, TV and music. This could devalue those threats to human content creators.

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                      ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai
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                      @calbearo @drahardja

                      If AI has been trained on copyrighted material from all these studios, it’s yo ho, yo ho Pirates life for us

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                        #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                        this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                        ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                        https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                        @blogdiva Those rulings would probably only apply to the LLM generated parts; any real software product would be a mix of human-designed and AI generated parts, so it would presumably still have copyright protection. Now it is possible that a software product that is entirely "vibe coded" isn't copyrightable in the US, but currently those products suck too badly to be worth stealing.

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                        • elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE elduvelle@neuromatch.social

                          @jaystephens

                          Definitely, see my other answer here
                          https://neuromatch.social/@elduvelle/116161779140284723

                          In the end I'd say the question is "who should benefit from the copyright", not whether the LLM's output is copyrightable or not, because I don't see why it wouldn't be. Obviously it's not going to be easy to figure it out, but in theory all those who contributed to the output (including in the training set) should be considered as contributors. The LLM itself, like a typewriter, is not a contributor.

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                          @elduvelle
                          Yeah that would be a fair outcome.
                          It rather raises the question of to what extent the intended purpose of commercial LLMs as they actually exist is to obfuscate things precisely so that any outcome like that is unachievable.

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                          • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                            @elduvelle
                            Yeah... you're right: you are NOT a lawyer.

                            I am and you don't know what you are talking about. Transformation has NOTHING to do with copyrightability. Nada. Nichevo. Rien.

                            (@drahardja )

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                            @LeslieBurns @elduvelle @drahardja may you provide more details please 🙏?

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                            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                              so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                              #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                              this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                              ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                              https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                              grandote2012@social.vivaldi.net
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                              @blogdiva Good point, maybe we can #DeMicrosoft the world, by arguing that, we could, potentially, make MS Apps, Software and maybe even Windows #OpenSource.

                              I know, dreaming...

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                              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                                #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                                this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                                ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                                https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                                spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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                                @blogdiva

                                If an AI/LLM reverse engineers the Windows codebase, and publishes the results, is this a Copyright violation?

                                What if Copilot does this? Is it a contract violation?

                                Did Copilot sign a NDA?

                                #CopyRight #AI #Insanity

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                                • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                                  @elduvelle
                                  Yeah... you're right: you are NOT a lawyer.

                                  I am and you don't know what you are talking about. Transformation has NOTHING to do with copyrightability. Nada. Nichevo. Rien.

                                  (@drahardja )

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                                  lilleffie@mstdn.social
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                                  @LeslieBurns @elduvelle @drahardja
                                  Thank you showing up to the party.
                                  LOVE ME SOME…..
                                  “well, actually, let me explain it you.”

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                                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                    so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                                    #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                                    this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                                    ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                                    https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                                    @blogdiva Even the worst SCOTUS of my lifetime says, "If you can't be arsed to make it, I can't be bothered to copyright it."

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                                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                      BTW

                                      as Google attempts to turn #Android phones proprietary, what with the way techbros have conspired to use embeddables as backdoors; should be insteresting to do a full auditing of the hardware and software used in Android phones specifically manufactured for the USA market.

                                      basically, techbros have hidden behide “trade secrets” and "security" to take control away from us.

                                      i would assume auditing for what’s built with automata should render that proprietary part null.

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                                      @blogdiva please forgive me, it's been a day, am I reading this correctly that essentially, anything AI/LLM made is not copyrightable and thus we can do whatever the heck we want with it and companies can't do shit about it? And since it has zero value (because it cannot be copyrighted)...this will lead (hopefully) to it's collapse. Thus...all this is good news...right? Or am I missing something? Please let this be good news...

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                                      • elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE elduvelle@neuromatch.social

                                        @DrSaucy I'm not sure what your problem is, but are you sure you are answering to the correct post? Reply guy? What is ridiculous in my post?

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                                        @elduvelle I've no problem & I'm quite certain my reply was to your sophomoric response to the OP.

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                                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                          so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                                          #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                                          this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                                          ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                                          https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                                          @blogdiva "Thaler asked the Supreme Court to review the ruling in October 2025, arguing it “created a chilling effect on anyone else considering using AI creatively.”"

                                          -good

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