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  3. so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

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  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

    so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

    #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

    this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

    ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
    https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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    #31

    @blogdiva Also could make it harder for Hollywood and TV production studios, who are probably thinking they'll go full AI at some point in the coming years.

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    • drsaucy@sfba.socialD drsaucy@sfba.social

      @elduvelle @blogdiva Genuinely curious, are you always this silly or do you just play ridiculous as a Reply Guy?

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      #32

      @DrSaucy I'm not sure what your problem is, but are you sure you are answering to the correct post? Reply guy? What is ridiculous in my post?

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      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

        so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

        #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

        this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

        ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
        https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

        ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @blogdiva

        The big tech companies have created the most inefficient and expensive public library known to man.

        They’ve read that LLMs will happily reproduce an entire work of an author just basically copy pasting the book.

        Should work wonders asking one of these videos services to completely replicate down to the pixel whatever film we want

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          @blogdiva Does this mean all those AI-generated ads are not copyrightable?

          Time to remix.

          Link Preview Image
          Coca-Cola causes controversy with AI-generated ad

          Coca-Cola is facing backlash online over an artificial intelligence-made Christmas promotional video that users are calling “soulless” and “devoid of any actual creativity.”

          favicon

          NBC News (www.nbcnews.com)

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          #34

          @drahardja @blogdiva
          Copyrights are only to protect the Epstein class, silly.

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          • calbearo@convo.casaC calbearo@convo.casa

            @drahardja Even more of a threat to film and music execs and producers wanting to use AI for films, TV and music. This could devalue those threats to human content creators.

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            #35

            @calbearo @drahardja

            If AI has been trained on copyrighted material from all these studios, it’s yo ho, yo ho Pirates life for us

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            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

              so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

              #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

              this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

              ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
              https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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              #36

              @blogdiva Those rulings would probably only apply to the LLM generated parts; any real software product would be a mix of human-designed and AI generated parts, so it would presumably still have copyright protection. Now it is possible that a software product that is entirely "vibe coded" isn't copyrightable in the US, but currently those products suck too badly to be worth stealing.

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              • elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE elduvelle@neuromatch.social

                @jaystephens

                Definitely, see my other answer here
                https://neuromatch.social/@elduvelle/116161779140284723

                In the end I'd say the question is "who should benefit from the copyright", not whether the LLM's output is copyrightable or not, because I don't see why it wouldn't be. Obviously it's not going to be easy to figure it out, but in theory all those who contributed to the output (including in the training set) should be considered as contributors. The LLM itself, like a typewriter, is not a contributor.

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                #37

                @elduvelle
                Yeah that would be a fair outcome.
                It rather raises the question of to what extent the intended purpose of commercial LLMs as they actually exist is to obfuscate things precisely so that any outcome like that is unachievable.

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                • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                  @elduvelle
                  Yeah... you're right: you are NOT a lawyer.

                  I am and you don't know what you are talking about. Transformation has NOTHING to do with copyrightability. Nada. Nichevo. Rien.

                  (@drahardja )

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                  #38

                  @LeslieBurns @elduvelle @drahardja may you provide more details please 🙏?

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                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                    so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                    #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                    this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                    ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                    https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                    grandote2012@social.vivaldi.net
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                    #39

                    @blogdiva Good point, maybe we can #DeMicrosoft the world, by arguing that, we could, potentially, make MS Apps, Software and maybe even Windows #OpenSource.

                    I know, dreaming...

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                      #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                      this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                      ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                      https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                      spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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                      #40

                      @blogdiva

                      If an AI/LLM reverse engineers the Windows codebase, and publishes the results, is this a Copyright violation?

                      What if Copilot does this? Is it a contract violation?

                      Did Copilot sign a NDA?

                      #CopyRight #AI #Insanity

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                      • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                        @elduvelle
                        Yeah... you're right: you are NOT a lawyer.

                        I am and you don't know what you are talking about. Transformation has NOTHING to do with copyrightability. Nada. Nichevo. Rien.

                        (@drahardja )

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                        @LeslieBurns @elduvelle @drahardja
                        Thank you showing up to the party.
                        LOVE ME SOME…..
                        “well, actually, let me explain it you.”

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                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                          so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                          #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                          this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                          ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                          https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                          #42

                          @blogdiva Even the worst SCOTUS of my lifetime says, "If you can't be arsed to make it, I can't be bothered to copyright it."

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            BTW

                            as Google attempts to turn #Android phones proprietary, what with the way techbros have conspired to use embeddables as backdoors; should be insteresting to do a full auditing of the hardware and software used in Android phones specifically manufactured for the USA market.

                            basically, techbros have hidden behide “trade secrets” and "security" to take control away from us.

                            i would assume auditing for what’s built with automata should render that proprietary part null.

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                            @blogdiva please forgive me, it's been a day, am I reading this correctly that essentially, anything AI/LLM made is not copyrightable and thus we can do whatever the heck we want with it and companies can't do shit about it? And since it has zero value (because it cannot be copyrighted)...this will lead (hopefully) to it's collapse. Thus...all this is good news...right? Or am I missing something? Please let this be good news...

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                            • elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE elduvelle@neuromatch.social

                              @DrSaucy I'm not sure what your problem is, but are you sure you are answering to the correct post? Reply guy? What is ridiculous in my post?

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                              @elduvelle I've no problem & I'm quite certain my reply was to your sophomoric response to the OP.

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                              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                                #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                                this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                                ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                                https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                                @blogdiva "Thaler asked the Supreme Court to review the ruling in October 2025, arguing it “created a chilling effect on anyone else considering using AI creatively.”"

                                -good

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                                • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                                  @elduvelle
                                  Yeah... you're right: you are NOT a lawyer.

                                  I am and you don't know what you are talking about. Transformation has NOTHING to do with copyrightability. Nada. Nichevo. Rien.

                                  (@drahardja )

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                                  @LeslieBurns @elduvelle I’d love to learn more!

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                                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                    so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                                    #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                                    this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                                    ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                                    https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                                    @blogdiva i have a feeling this will eventually be heard and ruled in favour of the corporations when enough big corps have more AI garbage than actual human work, just like how they ruled corporations are people when it comes to election financing.

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                                    • sharlatan@mastodon.socialS sharlatan@mastodon.social

                                      @LeslieBurns @elduvelle @drahardja may you provide more details please 🙏?

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                                      #48

                                      @sharlatan @elduvelle @drahardja I spent years in law school and personal study on top of that to learn about copyright law. It cannot be explained on social media. But, fundamentally, in the US, something must be an expression of *human* creativity to be copyrightable. The tools may be whatever, but at its core it must be human expression.

                                      And transformation has nothing to do with that. The term transformation is from the fair use doctrine, and has been perverted by anti-copyright folk.

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                                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                        so 3 courts + US Copyright Office say you cannot copyright nor patent anything made primarily with LLMs because automata aren't human.

                                        #SCOTUS won't review these rules because copyright is meant to protect human creations, not software or automata.

                                        this may mean #AWSlop #Microslop are “de-copyrighting” & “de-patenting” their own proprietary software as they let automata “code” 🧐

                                        ❝ AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted after Supreme Court declines to review the rule
                                        https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright

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                                        @blogdiva
                                        Who the heck would want Microslop code???

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                                        • bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB bolomkxxviii@mastodon.social

                                          @blogdiva
                                          Who the heck would want Microslop code???

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                                          @BoloMKXXVIII @blogdiva so much stuff still only works on microslop windows. if windows was open source it would be so fucking cool actually because then there could be an actually good version of it for people to use.

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