Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?
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@gabeweb
[citation needed]@dzwiedziu @eniko @EUCommission the EU over-regulates its own industry to death, making it impossible to compete. That's why traditional European brands either moved to B2B or went extinct, leaving the consumer market wide open for Chinese companies.
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Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?
Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations
Think about it
@eniko @EUCommission I've repeatedly (alas not with much reach) advocated for this.
The open Internet of today needs would need a free browser - and a free mobile OS.
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@dzwiedziu @eniko @EUCommission the EU over-regulates its own industry to death, making it impossible to compete. That's why traditional European brands either moved to B2B or went extinct, leaving the consumer market wide open for Chinese companies.
@gabeweb
I've asked for citations, as in concrete examples.If you're only into scaremongering with “regulations” then I'm done here and temp-muting you.
P.S. Check why Germany has a TÜV in China, or why France bans many Chinese products, or why we don't import food from the USA, then you'll know what regulations are for.
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Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?
Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations
Think about it
@eniko @EUCommission Yeah and they will add age verification and chat control in it.
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Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?
Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations
Think about it
@eniko @EUCommission
Would be globally beneficial. Great suggestion. Or maybe that's why they don't do it? -
Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?
Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations
Think about it
@eniko @EUCommission This is against the ideas of the European Union, they wouldn't do such a thing
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@eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/
@flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit I mean it would probably better to have a fully separated browser stack from Chromium.
Sure Vivaldi is probably on one of the most "distinct" chromium forks but it's still ultimately dependent on Google for like 90% of their stack.
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@alexia @EUCommission @eniko @wyatt_h_knott Also might be a bit too niche for non-technical users. Doubt the average person understands anti-fingerprinting.
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Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?
Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations
Think about it
@eniko @EUCommission
I think this is a nice one for @hpod16 -
@eniko If anything, I think we should want Firefox to be independent of any state (in so far as that’s possible), and for it to be an open and transparent project. After all, the issue isn’t the *American* techindustry per se, but who’s in control over the technology we use daily, and that isn’t, in my mind, a question of national or European sovereignty; it’s a question of how decisions are made and implemented, and that spans borders.
@leslieclarke @eniko cue a new country called "Fireland" whose sole purpose is to develop a user-respecting web browser
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@flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit I mean it would probably better to have a fully separated browser stack from Chromium.
Sure Vivaldi is probably on one of the most "distinct" chromium forks but it's still ultimately dependent on Google for like 90% of their stack.
@Umbreon @flyingpenguin @eniko
I'd say the picture is much more diverse. While Google might be the main driver, there are a lot more contributors.
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@eniko @EUCommission buy Servo buy Servo buy Servo they banned LLM code fund Servo
Ahem I think it would be ethical and sovereign if the EU supported the Servo browser project
@eniko @EUCommission @konstruct Do you want to ruin Servo?
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