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Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

    Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

    Think about it

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    @eniko @EUCommission I've repeatedly (alas not with much reach) advocated for this.

    The open Internet of today needs would need a free browser - and a free mobile OS.

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    • gabeweb@mastodon.socialG gabeweb@mastodon.social

      @dzwiedziu @eniko @EUCommission the EU over-regulates its own industry to death, making it impossible to compete. That's why traditional European brands either moved to B2B or went extinct, leaving the consumer market wide open for Chinese companies.

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      @gabeweb
      I've asked for citations, as in concrete examples.

      If you're only into scaremongering with “regulations” then I'm done here and temp-muting you.

      P.S. Check why Germany has a TÜV in China, or why France bans many Chinese products, or why we don't import food from the USA, then you'll know what regulations are for.

      @eniko @EUCommission

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

        Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

        Think about it

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        @eniko @EUCommission Yeah and they will add age verification and chat control in it.😑

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

          Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

          Think about it

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          @eniko @EUCommission

          Would be globally beneficial. Great suggestion. Or maybe that's why they don't do it?
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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

            Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

            Think about it

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            @eniko @EUCommission This is against the ideas of the European Union, they wouldn't do such a thing

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            • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

              @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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              @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit I mean it would probably better to have a fully separated browser stack from Chromium.

              Sure Vivaldi is probably on one of the most "distinct" chromium forks but it's still ultimately dependent on Google for like 90% of their stack.

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              • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                @wyatt_h_knott @EUCommission @eniko LibreWolf doesn't actually accept any funding tho 😔
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                @alexia @EUCommission @eniko @wyatt_h_knott Also might be a bit too niche for non-technical users. Doubt the average person understands anti-fingerprinting.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                  Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                  Think about it

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                  @eniko @EUCommission
                  I think this is a nice one for @hpod16

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                  • leslieclarke@mastodon.socialL leslieclarke@mastodon.social

                    @eniko If anything, I think we should want Firefox to be independent of any state (in so far as that’s possible), and for it to be an open and transparent project. After all, the issue isn’t the *American* techindustry per se, but who’s in control over the technology we use daily, and that isn’t, in my mind, a question of national or European sovereignty; it’s a question of how decisions are made and implemented, and that spans borders.

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                    @leslieclarke @eniko cue a new country called "Fireland" whose sole purpose is to develop a user-respecting web browser

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                    • umbreon@donphan.socialU umbreon@donphan.social

                      @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit I mean it would probably better to have a fully separated browser stack from Chromium.

                      Sure Vivaldi is probably on one of the most "distinct" chromium forks but it's still ultimately dependent on Google for like 90% of their stack.

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                      @Umbreon @flyingpenguin @eniko

                      I'd say the picture is much more diverse. While Google might be the main driver, there are a lot more contributors.

                      Link Preview Image
                      Chromium (web browser) - Wikipedia

                      favicon

                      (en.wikipedia.org)

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                      • konstruct@woof.techK konstruct@woof.tech

                        @eniko @EUCommission buy Servo buy Servo buy Servo they banned LLM code fund Servo

                        Ahem I think it would be ethical and sovereign if the EU supported the Servo browser project

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                        @eniko @EUCommission @konstruct Do you want to ruin Servo?

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